@shamrockgooner has your stance changed on loans?
You canāt trust other teams with players like this. They either make it here under their own steam or they donāt.
Loans work to a degree for Chelsea because they donāt care about the long term of their players.
Weāre not talking about anywhere near the same talent but what use did two years on loan do Patino? (for example)
To be fair, I donāt think we can put solely on the player. Fans of youth academies are weird and hype up everybody to a degree thatās toxic. Remember that tweet long time ago calling some 11 year old Arsenal kid the next Messi?
These guys grow up hearing how absolutely amazing they are. They have no perspective.
I already know the discussion around Dowman is going to suck.
Wasnāt that proof that Patino probably wasnāt up to scruff though?
Saliba is a good example of someone benefitting from a loan.
Iāll never be in favour of loans. Best you can hope for them is creating a market and even there our record is shite.
Nwaneri is a first teamer. A loan is a huge step back from that.
The very very odd one like Saliba will ultimately work out.
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Iām with that thinking as well, but I may take softer stance on this if Nwaneri is perhaps aiming big and wants a loan himself to make the squad for the WC in 2026.
Personally, I think even if we sign nobody and heās got a easy path to the first team, I think itās very unlikely that he makes it given the sheer competition in the position the plays in.
Wouldnāt mind him going to Palace or Forest for the season. Start 30 games and play European football.
He wonāt start 30 games at any PL team next season.
Donāt think it would happen to Nwaneri even if he made a dumb decision like that because his talent should still shine through regardless, but it would be really silly of him not to stay. Iām sure he will.
These kinds of negotiations are usually more about the agent than the player. Iāve never doubted Sakaās commitment to the club or desire to stay at Arsenal, yet every contract negotiation for him has been drawn out and painful. Nwaneriās first professional contract was like this too: His agent drew out the process, there were stories about other big clubs waiting to poach, and tried to secure everything he could. It doesnāt mean the player has any intention of leaving or desire to do so.
Take a step back and Nwaneri grew up in Islington, has been with the club since he was six, his best friend is on the team, and just came off a season in which he got more minutes as a 17-18 year old than all but maybe 3-4 similar aged players across the top five leagues. And all this after the club went to lengths to open up the developmental pathway by parting ways with Vieira and ESR. Thereās nothing wrong here from his perspective.
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At Forest (no links at all) he starts 15-20 league games plus some cup and Europe easily.
- Being left out in the cold with minimal minutes in recent months.
- Signing Madueke.
- Still canāt agree a new contract whilst MLS has.
Not looking good brev.
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https://x.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1941789970550894987?t=4Vn-2h09a8dZbo7qtlu0zg&s=19
https://x.com/DailyAFC/status/1941796550218293569?t=I_U5DfR-YH_k89zHu42qpA&s=19
If itās true, fuck him off. Canāt have kids dictating what they want to do.
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Yeah, cause heās going to get regular play time at the big clubs in Europe.
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Sounds like heās becoming a bit of problem which could be why Arteta clipped his wings by not playing him towards the end of last season. If all the noise is true it might be time to send him out on loan so he can experience what itās like playing regularly for a shit club.
Or sell him and bring in Eze.
No it doesnāt. There is no reason whatsoever to take this nonsense at face value
See my skillfully crafted caveat.
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itāll be a sad day at AFC to lose Nwaneri; really thought he had a long term future path here at the club.
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