Emiliano Martinez

Yea and I don’t like it when Ramsdale does it. Especially when he can’t back it up half the time.

It didn’t gradually change, though. Such drastic of attitude change is definitely forced and I do find it pretentious.

Yeah, I was moreso talking about abrupt changes. The guy I referenced became a totally different person within a year or two, similar to Emi.

You have to think he was always this guy but maybe feels like he has permission to act like it because of how successful he’s become in his career. First the FA Cup, then Copa America and then the World Cup. That trajectory is pretty insane.

Men don’t scream, only bitches do.

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Come on now. I scream. You scream. We all scream.

For ice cream.

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My point is that Nasri is a bit dumb for comparing how a 31 year old behaves to how he behaved when he was a maximum of 19 years old and at a new club surrounded by established, world famous footballers when he’s fresh off a plane from Uruguay.

I’m sure Martinez has probably always had some sort of cocky personality traits, but it’s unlikely he’d have felt comfortable showing that side of his personality when he was basically still a child and just signed for a big football club. You’d have expected him to be a bit more shy and reserved in his conduct at that point. Whereas being a cocky shit like Bendtner and believing you’re God’s gift to football when you’re fresh out the reserve team and almost still a child is weird behaviour and something you get criticised for.

I just think it would be weird if I met someone from school now as an adult and said that his new found confidence must be an act because he used to be ashy kid when I knew him back in school 15 years ago. Most adults in their thirties are pretty different people to who they were as teenagers.

Its fine to dislike Martinez and how he behaves, obviously, I just think it’s dumb to base an accusation of it being insincere on him behaving differently when he was basically still a child. It’s weird and faulty reasoning.

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Agree about Nasri, who left Arsenal in 2011, shouldn’t compare 2012 Emi with 2022 Emi for sure.

Until the end of his Arsenal career, Emi had a consistent attitude. I don’t see how anyone can suppress their innate behaviour for 10 years.
I am pretty sure Emi decided Villa is a new chapter in his life and he should no longer be shy.

Nasri has no right to comment on one’s footballing antics after his transgressions lol.

We should have kept Martinez without a doubt.

His shithousery, much like Ramsdale’s can destabilise the opposition. He’s a far better shot stopper than both Raya and Ramsdale and doesn’t make anywhere near the same amount of mistakes as the latter.

Instead we’ve spent £24-30m and £30m respectively on two keepers who have failed to impress for the most part, whilst Martinez could’ve been here doing the business.

I think we change keepers way too often to compete at the highest level sometimes.

The talentID isn’t strong with Arteta and his team when it comes to GKs, that’s for sure.

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I remember when @Calum was his biggest fan around here.

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Since 2014 when he came for a brief period when ospina and woj were injured. :joy:

His patch is still purple all these years later. It was a mistake to let him go but I’m happy he’s made his mark. He’ll go down as one of the best international goalkeepers ever

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Still don’t know why we sold him.
We’ve spent around 60m on Ramsdale and Raya but are they much better than Martinez?

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This is a gross overestimation of his talent by far, he’s been around for years and he only plays for Aston Villa

He wouldn’t even make the top 50 greatest goalkeepers of all time.

Him playing for Aston Villa isn’t an indication of his talent level. He bagged that move off a very small sample size and has established himself as a very good keeper and a big game player. The number of teams that could afford him is a very small list.

His performances for Argentina are definitely up there with any international goalkeeper. He’s been as important as anyone in their trophy laden 3 years

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Him and Casillas are the only keepers to win 3 trophies with Argentina on the spin.
I don’t think Argentina win all if any of the trophies the did in recent years without him.

He’s become a genuinely scary figure for teams facing Argentina.

If he had stayed at Arsenal and he’d replaced Leno as #1 at the start of 20/21 I think there’s a good chance he’d still be our keeper now. The only thing that makes me question it is if he quite has the profile in terms of his distribution that Arteta would want.

Casillas?

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Sorry, meant with their NT.
Spain also did it in 2008, 2010 and 2012.

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I don’t even know their bench keeper…
Really no one is good enough to challenge him as starter