It certainly looking that way, given one of the most vaccinated countries in the world currently has the highest case numbers per capita every day for the last few weeks.
As i said yesterday, unless you have a reference of the transmission count without vaccines, you canât really tell whether the vaccine reduced transmission or did nothing.
It very well could have been that the case count would be 3-4 times more than what it is now without vaccination.
You can compare countries with a high vaccination uptake with those who donât. It wont be a perfect picture, but if the vaccine did anything substantial to halt transmission then I believe you would absolutely be able to see that effect in the data.
Iâve always seen the vaccine as more of a flu shot. It wont stop you catching it, or passing it on, but it can protect you from the worst elements of the virus.
I thought everyone knew that is what the vaccine was meant to do?
Who ever said it was to stop you catching it?
Pfizer ceo
Did you not get told in Scotland that even if you arenât at risk, you should get vaccinated to protect others ??
Itâs very difficult to say anything with regards to this virus.
My friend contracted Covid and he lives with an extended family in not so spacious house; yet no one else in his family contracted Covid.
My sister has tested positive 4 days ago and she was with my parents while she was unwell a day prior to testing herself. My parents tested negative. She has all the symptoms so the viral load must be on the higher side.
On other hand, I have heard of a whole family testing positive with hardly any symptoms to talk about.
Itâs difficult to quantify the transmission because even in a normal scenario, you canât be certain of the transmission if someone is infected. It can be highly infectious or it just breezes away.
Those countries have always fared well compared to first world countries. So it wonât be a good comparison.
UK, US, Europe(in general) always had more cases per capita compared to countries who have lower vaccine uptake.
You still havenât explained Australia leading cases per capita in the last 2 weeks despite 94 % uptake.
Yeah but they also said it doesnât stop you catching it at the same time tbf
I was never meant to explain it.
I always said it is impossible to know until and unless you create a wormhole to an alternate universe where you can observe the case count without vaccination
My point was more about the passing it on, not catching it.
This why I love you say the right things without even knowing it𤣠higher vaccine rates has not translated to low transmission which could insinuate that the vaccine is nit doing itâs job
Proof?
That was after people reported still catching it
I disagree, I think the vaccine is doing what it was designed to do. And itâs very effective at it.
Read your post
The post which says my vaccinated parents didnât contract Covid from my vaccinated Sister, who has since recovered thanks to vaccines?
However, there is no âcontrolâ to compare this against.
Which both supports and goes against the @Trion and @Aussiegooner argument
Maybe so, but we can at least infer a lot from the data we have accrued over the last year.
Which will result in false equivalency considering the population density, culture, lockdown norms, weather etc of Australia; compared to other countries
Australia has not experience such a spike. Up until 13th Dec, they hardly went above 2000 cases per day.
What is happening in Netherlands & Australia is very very odd.