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Pubs were dying off long before covid

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Like a lot of things people have got out of habit during lockdown and in pubs terms found much cheaper and more selection for drinking at home.

There was a small growth before the pandemic and that was all but killed during it.

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Of course brexit, from a pro eu tweeter account :man_facepalming:t5:

Any other theories on why the delays?

Who the heck changed the name of my thread? :bellerin:

I can report that it was me because the old name was shit.

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“Paul Pogba”
—Graeme Souness, probably.

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“having done his own research forum member mhappy was delighted to report that the huge delays at Dover, not to mention the empty shelves and chaos at the ports was actually caused by…”

Incidentally, I know people who work at a big port in the South East. They’re saying that it’s only partly the fault of Brexit itself, the rest of the blame goes to the Government for their shambolic handling of Brexit.

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Strange how the bbc says otherwise

As someone who works in supply chain you want the process to work when it gets busy. It’s not an excuse. There are always variable levels of throughput and often it’s going to be high because the world is dynamic.

If there are processes in place which fundamentally make that worse it’s a terrible thing because your not getting the product when you need it most (demand is high).

You simply cannot deny that the checks required make an already strained system much worse. It’s honestly not even a debate.

Even before Brexit we had a requirement to make the process more efficient. Brexit said fuck that and made it a tonne even more inefficient.

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Ah yes, the good ol’ BBC :roll_eyes:

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I live 20 minutes from Dover and grew up there. It takes very little to cause those kinds of queues. Even a moderate inconvenience from Brexit will have massive knock on effects because the road infrastructure around one of the busiest ports in the world is, to put it delicately, shit.

No it doesn’t.

What’s been causing the queues?
On 1 January 2022, a raft of new UK measures for goods imported from the EU came into force.

This has led to additional checks in Dover where no checks existed before Brexit.

A spokesperson for Logistics UK, which represents hauliers, ferry companies, ports and customs agents, told Reality Check: “The queues we are seeing now result from the implementation of UK import requirements combined with volumes that are now picking up.”

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It’s good to lift one section but not the rest of the article huh oh very clever

By all means show me the part that you believe supports your view.

“The Port of Dover told us that increased customs checks were “not the sole reason for queues”.

It pointed to other factors including the volume of freight, work going on in the Port of Dover and a number of ferries being out of action.

A spokesperson told us that three ships were out for refitting last week, which is a quarter of the fleet. One of these will be returning this weekend.“

Oh here is the guardian also

There ya go. Not the sole reason. That’s not saying otherwise at all as you previously suggested. But also, why would you just outright believe officials on this? Not your usual MO at all. :thinking: