I am not mad at all, you reacted in the typical fashion that’s all.
Maybe I was naive to expect to expect a little more.
You definitely were naive to expect more. Given your record for sharing bullshit links I’m truly shocked you even got three people giving it several minutes of their time.
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The George Floyd transcript was released a few days ago, id actually be surprised if the police officers got serious time.
He was shouting I cant breathe before he was even restrained, drugged out of his face, was taken out of his car and out into the police car but starting saying he was claustrophobic and acting out. Said he had covid ( which I’m sure the policeman will give reasoning as to why he didn’t turn him round) the autopsy revealed there wasn’t enough pressure on the neck to cause asphyxiation( Different findings from two Independent coroners who said this was not the case)
The restraint was part of the police procedure, which, should be changed around the entire world now because of this.
This is all second hand from multiple people. But if its incorrect I’ll edit obviously.
If you are going to use coroners reports as evidence, then you need to cite the independent ones too.
What I find disturbing is the amount of wrong facts in that video. Wrongs that you @mhappy could have easily checked. I’m not “naive to expect a little more” here, because in all honesty I didn’t expect more from you.
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I havent really kept up to date like I said its second hand knowledge and just wanna discuss if the policeman should get the time they deserve. Just making sure, im not blaming George in any way at all, just what I read.
I’ve edited that in
Well what happened was the police coroner was the one who made those claims. The family then had, I think, two independent coroners look at the case and the both refuted nearly everything from the original report.
The court case can’t come soon enough, so we can hear and see everything.
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Yea I think you’ve got hold of the right wing pro police defence there mate. And the initial police autopsy is part of that. Theres a private autopsy too that contradicts it. BTW you can’t prove asphyxiation from an autopsy anyway.
Floyd video’d being choked to death in public. The bodycam footage shows Floyd telling police 20 times he couldn’t breath. He was begging the police to get off his neck. He said ‘I’m going to die, they are killing me’. He was screaming for his dead mother because he couldn’t breath. Members of the public were begging the police not to kill him. He passed out and they continued choking him after he passed out.
He also had covid weeks prior to the incident, he wasn’t currently infected.
While the chokehold is in police training while resisting, it’s not considered acceptable to kill a man using it.
Also they knew they were inflicting serious injuries on him so called for an ambulance while continuing to choke him.
Theyre are not right wing who I was talking about it with they were people I know who I used to wind up about Corbyn, its not from the Internet for me and their sources are Twitter, it wasnt a its his fault it was a the police are going to get away with this.
He was saying he had corona, he was saying he couldn’t breathe before being restrained. Its just a discussion about how I think the policeman are going to get away from punishment.
They called an ambulance because he was drugged up and acting erratic
1 black guy joined a communist party about 80 years ago and then decided it wasn’t for him. That’s your argument for the whole of BLM being part of a communist conspiracy? That’s why people are outraged at the police continuing to murder members of the public? Seriously?
You seriously need to stay away from youtube, facebook and twitter. You’re too gullible to not get brainwashed down a rabit hole. What happens is they suggest videos similar to ones you’ve previously washed so they keep giving you more propoganda to continue brainwashing you. You’re not discerning enough to see the bullshit for what is.
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They’ve listed the officers defense. All of it can be refruted. IE if someone is having trouble breathing it’s usually not a good idea to put maximal force upon their neck to make breathing far more difficult.
They initially called an ambulance because they cut his mouth open by forcing his face into the ground. They then escalated the call I presume because he had breathing difficulties
The officers arguably can’t get a fair trial anyway. There’s no way a jury doesn’t convict and let’s America burn in the current environment.
No report can justify 8 minutes 40 seconds of kneeing a person on a neck. Out of which 3-4 mins, the victim was non responsive.
Just sit and do nothing for 8minutes 40 seconds and you will realize how long that is
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So the leader comes out saying she they are trained Marxist means nothing?
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How much about Marxism have you read? Because Elizabeth Warren’s wealth tax was Marxist, which in turn makes her a Marxist.
Mate the co founder literally said in her own words that she is a trained Marxist. Why do you think the organization goals are what they which does nothing for Black people.
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Mate you haven’t read anything about Marxism. But to keep it very simple for you, Marxism is simply the re-distribution of wealth in society. Most African Americans support the re-distribution of wealth in society. The concept of reperations is inherently a Marxist philosophy.
You assume I don’t not understand Marxism like you assume most black Americans are for redistribution of wealth. You have no evidence of this like there is no evidence that Marxism, socialism and communism has ever worked when implemented
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I know you’ve never bothered to actually read Marx because you make the stupid assumption that conflates marxism with communism. There’s elements of Marxism practised in many social democracies that have been very effective countries.
The African American population vote emphatically, by 88-95%, for the party that is in more in favour of redistribution of wealth. Medicare for all is a Marxist policy and the vast majority of African American’s in polling are in favour of it.
I’m climbing up on a big horse now, but unless you’ve read and understood the differences it’s not worth my time. I’m not defending Marxism, Communism (or whatever you think it is) as the solution. Because no philosophy is in itself flawless and elements of all spectres are the ground of most democracy’s today. Yes that includes a lot of socialistic values too!
A person who watch such right wing propaganda (without questioning anything) is to far gone. Like @arsenescoatmaker says, read some Marx, reflect on it and then come back with your critique. Your argumentation now is simple, and really shows the sad fact how influenced you are by right wing social media.
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I did not conflate the two I listed them as separately to say none of these movements have worked in history. You again assumed I don’t know the difference like some assume that I’m right wing because of how far left they are. Most black house holds a Democrate/labour by default that’s why nothing ever gets done for them so to say they chose the party that believes in it means nothing at all.
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