Arsenal vs FC Bayern Munich (UCL 1st K/O Round 2nd Leg)

I doubt that without an Cazorla f.e. The imbalance in this squad is as much a problem as the manager imo.

I dreamt we won 2-0 but the problem was Perry Groves scored as well, so I’m not sure if it’s worth having a bet on.

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Ox will carry us.

So Alonso and Ribbery out for them. Thiago probably plays deeper with Muller as CAM

Thiago and Lewandowski are easily their two biggest threats for me. Haven’t really watched much of the Bundesliga this year, except for some highlights, and by all acounts I hear Thiago has been playing very well this season. I believe he’s been given a much freer role since Guardiola has left.

I think there might be a few goals, so I’m going for 2-2, which would be a great result considering our recent form.

If P.S.G. could, we could as well. Finally i see you a bit optmistic :wink:

Same as that, that being said I’d be more than happy if we set up like this

As long as Giroud doesn’t start & we don’t give the likes of Thiago time & space on the ball like Barca did with Verratti last night.

I like this lineup except drop Ox for Iwobi.

You’d play Iwobi in central midfield ahead of Ox?

Without doubt. Iwobi is a much better player/central midfielder.

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On what grounds is Iwobi a better central midfielder? The one game I’ve seen him play there he looked massively ineffective and that was the Watford game. He’s much better further forward.

On the grounds that Ox isn’t good, Iwobi is, and he participates much more in build-up than Ox does even when Ox is in centre midfield, and although he hasn’t been given many chances in CM he’s surely more worth giving time there than Ox, especially in a game where there will be more tactical exigency (seriously, when Ox starts tonight in CM, as I’m pretty sure he will, it’s going to be funny when the shoe collectively hits the floor for Arsenal supporters, the guy does not process the game remotely fast enough for a game of this level, even if Bayern aren’t particularly good this season) and you need a player you can trust to some extent to make good decisions.

It’s tempting purely for Iwobi’s ball retention, but the Ox is naturally a Cm and has the pace to make up for his lack of positional awareness when we inevitably get hit on the break.

If we’re dropping anyone deeper I’d prefer it to be Ɩzil as crazy as that sounds. He’s ran the show from that position before albeit it was ina friendly with Toni Kroos by his side.

Yeah, I would definitely be happy with that too, then you simply move Iwobi higher up the pitch.

Either way, Iwobi over Ox is a no-brainer in a game like this, for me, and I’m sure we’ll see why this evening.

Anyways, I’m pretty confident Wenger is going to pick a midfield 3 of Elneny/Xhaka, Coquelin, and Ox.

I don’t think anybody thinks Ox is a world beater and aside from the odd troll comment here and there, most people have little faith in his ability. But his performances at CM thus far indicate he’d be a good fit for tonight’s game especially if we opt for a 3 or 4 man midfield. His pace and strength coupled with his ability to make runs directly from midfield will be essential to launching counter attacks tonight.

Yep, verratti ran the show but rabiot and matuidi and even draxler were running non stop all night. Your most famous recent wins against big teams were all because of one man - santi. Man City 0-2 he ran the show, 3-0 Man Utd and 3-0 Chelsea again.

I hope he can return to full fitness but I doubt it. For 3 years verratti is literally the exact player you’ve needed, even with santi in the squad, but of course most people have known this also. Should’ve sold Ramsey when he had any value.

Pretty much doing what rabiot did last night, he could perform a similar role but obviously not with quite as much quality…

If you want to launch counter attacks from midfield I’d much rather Iwobi, or Ɩzil.

His performances at CM so far indicate to me the opposite of what you’ve just said (that he’d be a good fit for tonight’s game).

There’s a few people who have really been taken in with his performances at CM and who are not trolling at all, actually.

Be intersting to see if Ox plays in CM and to see how he does against a much better team than Hull/Saints