Interesting strategy from Trump, will people buy it?
Trump should go full woke liberal 
And what did trump do when he got power?
The same old establishment shite. Didnât drain the swamp. Fed off of it
That is why he is losing currently, now that geriatric joe is out, people realise he wasnât all that different.
Just htes Muslims a little more.
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A paper wealthy white guy with deep business connections was never supposed to get remotely close to executive power? Sure, Jan.
Youâre joking right? There were multiple investigations into Russian interference into the 2016 election. There were at least two reports released about it. The Russians even admitted they interfered.
I think youâve got some interesting ideas of the media carrying water for the political establishment when during 2016 and even today, media outlets go out of the way to sanitize Trump.
@RockyMaivia the fact heâs suggesting something like that makes me think theyâre worried about women, especially white women, breaking for Harris. I donât think anyone will buy it though. His party was cheering on a state court banning IVF a few months ago and pushing the idea of fetal personhood.
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Only once it became abundantly clear that had Trump had the base eating out of his hands and there was effectively no choice but to get behind him or alienate their readers/viewers. But initially he did not have the backing of establishment Republicans or Murdoch and other major establishment news outlets. It wasnât their plan all along to get him in power as their man, they felt they had to back him eventually. They definitely would have preferred a more ânormalâ Republican candidate. They still would but Trump still has too many right wingers fervently supporting him and theyâre not going to alienate their readers/viewers by making a futile attempt to hard push someone else over Trump.
You see it when someone like Ben Shapiro at the Daily Wire briefly tries to back someone like De Santis for Republican nominee over Trump and his audience gets mad at him and his efforts to back someone else prove totally futile. They then meekly have to start walking it back a bit and backing Trump as if they genuinely support him in the same way their viewers do, because they know their viewers wonât stand for them not backing Trump.
Shapiro ultimately is captured by his audience and he falls in line. Similar with Tucker Carlson when he was at Fox. We saw his leaked texts saying how he fucking hates Trump lol, but on air he was carrying water for him and not giving the slightest hint that he had such a strong, deep dislike of Trump, because he knows that his genuine opinion just wonât play with Fox News viewers.
Establishment media and Republicans never wanted to put Trump in power, it was not the plan by any stretch, they basically just had to go along with it or risk losing all influence and clout they have with their base.
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lol what
Show me concrete evidence they admitted to interfering. I have never seen it, would love to see it.
And show me evidence of proven russian interference.
I will be waiting.
As for the establishment media, you really claim itâs not biased against Trump and supportive of any candidate against Trump, especially democrats?
Just look at Harrisâs CNN interview.
This is very true. There was an opportunity for Trump to merge into something of an âindependentâ president with an unconventional cabinet filled with talented people appointed on merit not beholden to old ideas. The America first concept isnât an inherently right wing concept.
But he doubled down on the bad behaviour and appointed clowns into his administration. He blew it big time
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Prigozhin saying he interfered is a far cry from Russia (cq Putin, head of state of Russia) admitting to interference.
There is also no evidence presented Trump was in any way connected to Russia. There was no collusion between Trump and Russia as the media at the time pushed this narrative.
Ah. Change the narrative from Russian to Putin. How close the culprit is to Putin doesnât matter 
You are changing the narrative.
Russia admits to interference is the topic.
Prigozhin saying he interferes isnât equal to the nation state admitting to it.
Furthermore: what is the interference they did? Where is the evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia?
Iâll be waiting.
This is why you are non debatable.
Iâll be waiting
idk how it could be any other way. Itâs a philosophy that depends on demonizing minorities.
Kamala could obviously never give an answer like this. 
Donald Trump was asked today if he would commit to prioritizing legislation to make childcare affordable, and if so, what specific legislation he would advance.
This is an unedited transcript of his response:
Well, I would do that, and weâre sitting down, and I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka was so, uh, impactful on that issue. Itâs a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that Iâm talking about, that, because, look, child care is child care is. Couldnât, you know, thereâs something, you have to have it â in this country you have to have it.
But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that Iâm talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that theyâre not used to â but theyâll get used to it very quickly â and itâs not gonna stop them from doing business with us, but theyâll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Uh, those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that weâre talking about, including child care, that itâs going to take care.
Weâre gonna have - I, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with, uh, the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country, because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that Iâm talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just, uh, that I just told you about.
Weâre gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as child care, uh, is talked about as being expensive, itâs, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers weâll be taking in. Weâre going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people, and then weâll worry about the rest of the world. Letâs help other people, but weâre going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. Itâs about Make America Great Again, we have to do it because right now weâre a failing nation, so weâll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you.
And people said Joe Biden had dementia. Jesus Christ.
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I agree with all of that but again my point is it was inevitable given how Murdock specifically used Fox News and his other media outlets to cultivated what is now the the Trump base.
Murdock (along with others) wanted political influence so he brainwashed the Republican base. Theyâre now a Frankensteinâs monster that only Trump can control.
Trumpenstein 
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The crazy thing about that is that the party actually commissioned a report after losing to Obama in 2012. The quotes coming out of the party at that time were all about increasing inclusion among minority voters and trying to make the tent so that people who didnât agree with Republicans on everything still felt like they could vote Republican.
First phrase in the first line heâs talking straight out of his fat arse. Why does anyone listen to this cunt?
The whole Tenet Media > Tim Pool, Dave Rubin conspiracy is hilarious.
Debate in about 4hrs.