It’s kinda funny how I thought Ramsey would be the one beneficiary of Emery’s hiring. Figured he would get to play in his best position/tactical set-up as the highest 8 in a trivote but no, was too offensive for that, Emery likes a more Xhaka-Elneny-Torreira flavour to his trivotes, not an ounce of creative inspiration in the bunch. 
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Yeah hes a great starting midfielder for a Top 4 non contending side like Arsenal, particularly where he can play a decent sized role. And that’s why it’s not a big deal that he left, because his ceiling is making us perennial Top 4 guys.
I suppose Top 4 is a good thing for us now lol either way, Ramsey was never going to be integral to us becoming an actual serious football club that wants to win the games it plays
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Juve was a perfect move. He spends his prime years as one good player among heaps in a side winning stuff. And we get to move on and build ourselves back up without average players like Ramsey forming the backbone of the team.
I was glad a year ago when it came out and I’m still glad even now. With him we’d be back in delusion at best, battling for Top 4 and thinking we are a good team.
Tbh this seems like you’re just making an arbitrary statement and I don’t really see the argument for it.
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That building ourselves back up thing has sure got off to a great start without him 
I just want to say I miss him like I knew we would, only good football we’ve played in the last 15 months was when Ramsey was in the side. It was nice having an actual goal threat from midfield also, something we simply don’t have now.
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He was our only genuine goal threat from midfield. Now we have nada.
he was just a smart common sense player. When he wasn’t trying to be fancy with tricks and shit.
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He’d be totally lost in this mess right now. Easy journo hits here.
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I was hoping you might actually make a substantive post about football soon instead of pretending you have some esoteric knowledge about the game that none of us can possibly understand lol
The point is that players like Ramsey represent our era of averageness and him leaving isn’t the proverbial straw that caused us, as a club, to fall apart shortly after.
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The fuck lol?
I mean, that wasn’t actually your point though was it (you imply he’s not good enough for a contending side, but do you really think he wouldn’t fit into Klopp’s Liverpool instead of Wijnaldum, or Ox? Or even Guardiola’s City instead of Gündogan, or Cholo’s Atléti that won the title, etc-- there’s just no real actual basis for saying that he isn’t ‘contender level’ quality…), and no one’s saying that him leaving was the proverbial straw that caused us as a club to fall apart shortly after. We were already well in the process of falling apart, and if there were a proverbial straw it would be much more simple–Emery, or three fids, or Gazidis, depending how proverbial you wanna get.
And even if it was your point, hard to see how Ramsey, one of our best players in this period, represents our era of averageness. Wouldn’t Giroud, Podolski, Iwobi, Flamini, Bellerín, etc. etc. etc. be much better candidates?
Hope this is substantial enough for my haters here 
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cough @Phoebica cough
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Thanks. That one slipped through the net.
@AbouCuellar You spelt Diaby wrong. It’s not spelt Bellerin.
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OH CMON JADE, NO NEED TO GET NASTY
Look, I once had high hopes for our mousey looking catalan too, but he just never pushed on to club legend status like Abou did
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I think Wenger was great for Ramsey in terms of motivating him and getting him back and firing after that terrible injury, but the one thing he always got wrong was that he let Ramsey run around and do whatever he wanted. The lack of tactical discipline he displayed at times was just shocking, but he was allowed to do it.
I find it sad that we probably never saw the best of Ramsey that we could’ve at Arsenal because I think he would have benefited from playing under a different manager much earlier. I think a lot of people undervalue Ramsey because of the way he played at times but that wasn’t representative of his true quality.
Plus how great would it be to have a midfielder in this squad right now who could actually grab a goal. We miss this guy a lot imo.
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Actually, I was saying he’s capable of being the main or top player in a good side that makes Top 4 but isn’t a contender like City/Liverpool currently.
Obviously he could play for those sides too and be part of some successful teams, but would he be one of the top players in the side? My view is that would be unlikely.
The reality is we actually agree, because like you say it was much before then that the club was declining and as I say in my previous post; Ramsey wasn’t the proverbial straw. So we both agree that the club sucked before Ramsey left on a free.
I can imagine this will now descend into an argument around semantics and small variances in interpretation. I am excited.
Yeah, there’s a heap of players you could bring up as representing some element of our recent performances as a club, but this is a thread about Aaron Ramsey, so that’s why I’ve been talking about him lol
Giroud is a great candidate though to be fair 
What’s surprising? You said I was making an ‘arbitrary’ statement, but you didn’t actually substantiate the reasons why that was the case. Seems like a pretty pointless way to use a forum lol
Plus you responded lol so…
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YO MOMMAS ARBITRARY
(See, I know perfectly well how to use a forum mesoterically)
I can never forgive him for leaving Echte Liebe.
Ramsey’s 2013-14 season where he lit the world on fire also coincided with us ending our trophy drought so much love for that.
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