I mean it was all of it, but it was clear that the mini-budget was the beginning of the end.
Had Sunak won against Truss the first time round, I think the Tories would be winning this GE (but only just).
I mean it was all of it, but it was clear that the mini-budget was the beginning of the end.
Had Sunak won against Truss the first time round, I think the Tories would be winning this GE (but only just).
Boris was a blustering buffoon but the Tories managed to replace him with Truss who was worse.
I need more than 4 options
I just thought after 4 options, is there actually a point in the poll?
The list of options would be a lot shorter if it was reasons to vote Tory.
I think the NHS chaos really did something lately.
They may have even got away with the truss shite with how the media and junk tanks were behind them (of course the junk tanks are responsible for truss)
But the NHS was below immigration and the economy as an issue just 2 years ago, and now it may be number 1.
Doctors, nurse, paramedic strikes really put it into the forefront as the terrible health of the nation with the waitlist and all the other issues.
And that is something the tories can’t shy away from and most voters know the nhs was in better hands with labour so they are getting hammered on it.
The tories hoped public would side with them against unions causing disruption but the public seems to sympathise with the striking workers and blame tories for the strikes.
Their thatcher cosplay has went horribly wrong.
So definitely a bigger reason for me than others may have
I know the NHS is a massive issue, but I think a lot of voters have known about it and overlooked it for a long time. I don’t think it’s the reason a majority of people will vote against the Tories tomorrow.
Don’t get me wrong, I think it is an issue but without issues that have swayed voters more - like their mortgages going up by hundreds of pounds a month - I don’t think the Tories would be getting voted out tomorrow.
You’re right they have, I think in recent years they have been overlooking it less as more and more people have or k ow someone who has experienced the shite care there now.
It has definitely become more of an issue as time has gone on. Which probably correlates with more and more people having had some kind of negative experience at the hands of this version of the NHS.
By itself, I don’t think it gets the Tories voted out. In concert with other issues though, I think it’s definitely a twist of the knife.
I think the main thing really is brexit.
It will hopefully ruin the tories for a generation.
Brexit is a mirage. Has made the country so much worse off but people thing it will lead to prosperity if they can ‘make it work’
Pipe dream. It has torn the party apart
I agree.
The Tories lied to get Brexit and the people they conned have seen their votes ruin the country.
https://x.com/wingsscotland/status/1808493520421802353?s=46
I am beginning to already hate Starmer’s labour. They have no desire to move the Overton window back at all.
No belief in anything, just power.
I predict Fascists in 5-10 years. Whether that’s reform or something else.
You’re going to start hearing “Tory Brexit” soon from our new Government. That will be the beginning of the move towards highlighting the multiple failings of leaving the EU. At the moment Labour need to convince a lot of thick people that we’re not reversing Brexit because that’ll hand voters over to Reform and Tories.
The Tories and Reform silence over Brexit proves what a fucking clusterfuck it was. The last 2 elections have been all about Brexit, this is the first one where neither Labour or the Tories is mentioning it, the overton window is shifting, very slowly though.
Can’t be Brexit, Tories got another 5 years out of it. Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn was neck in neck. Then a perfect storm of Boris Johnson and Labour divisions (Which Starmer was a part of, ah hem) got them another 5 years over the issue.
I’d say it’s two things at it’s core
The Mini-Budget, you don’t fuck with people’s money. ‘I’m alright jack’ doesn’t quite work if you get fucked as well.
Partygate, although @Leper is right plenty of Tory corruption had been ignored, Labour had overtaken the Tories in the polls after Partygate. They pushed their luck with that one too much. The lockdown was exhausting for many people and that pissed them off. Boris Johnson’s popularity also sunk that his name became an hindrance than a benefit.
I think the only thing that stopped Partygate being more decisive in the end was the time from when all the details came out to the election. At the time I think a lot of people would have been willing to vote Johnson’s government out there and then over him and his cronies having piss ups in Number 10 while other people couldn’t go to their family funerals.
In a parallel universe Boris Johnson made a tearful, convincing apology for his behaviour and he’s leading the polls to be PM again.
“Biggest majority of any party since 1832”
Nobody’s ever going to listen to the polls again if this election doesn’t return an absolute annihilation for the Tories.
https://x.com/conservatives/status/1808155567614992811?s=46&t=LlMNFvsPPy2ozwuX8FhQrA
Conservatives on full don’t give a fuck mode now
Its all went downhill when Boris resigned. His 2019 mandate was very unique in terms of the electoral map and he’s the only person who could credibly maintain that level of support.
The Partygate stuff was not a electorally fatal scandal. The Tories certainly wouldn’t be looking at annihilation if he was still PM