Young Talents

Carrying over the thread from the other site.

Seems England have a few very interesting young talents in Andre Gomes, Marcus Edwards, and our own Reiss Nelson (our own Trae Coyle, a bit younger, is also being fast tracked for us at youth ranks). (and our own Chris Willock, but he’s a bit older/more advanced than these boys)

Future brighter for England atm or are these just more Oxlade Chamberlains whose flaws will become apparent later on?

This thread obviously can and should be used to talk about young talents from all over, @Burgundy who was the other player you mentioned aside from Carles Aleñá, btw?

Fran Villalba.

He has vanished after playing for Gary Neville.
Still relevant?

He’s very young but relevant enough for Barca to want to sign him for a second time.

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The FA will be capable to wast the talent like the past when the England National Team had giant players like Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Frank Lampard, Ashley Cole, David Beckham, Sol Campbell, Steve Gerrard, Mick Carrick, Paul Scholes, Wayne Rooney and Micheal Owen, without winning any trophies.

Apart this, there are many young talents who will be important for their NTs.

We can image the spanish nation team, thinking about the future World Cup, who can have on the right a group of players like Bellerìn, Carvajal, Juanfran. Their U21 and U18/17 squads are full of talents: Jorge Merè the CB, Alena, Ontiveros, Mayoral.

…and France? Potentially, without mentioning a top class CB like Laurent Koscielny, they have two CBs which were born in 1993 and two CBs which were born in 1994 plus Lucas Hernandez, Kimpembpe from PSG, Lenglet (Nancy captain despite his age, 21) and Diop. It’s useless to debate about other roles because their U21 have a midfield better than many midfields of senior national teams: Bakayoko from Monaco, Adrien Rabiot and Corentin Tolisso,

Portugal, when Ronaldo, Pepe, Fonte, Moutinho and Quaresma will be too old to be in the NT, they have a group of players ready to build a new spine: Ruben Semedo, Ruben Neves, Horta, Gelson Martins, Renato Sanches, Adrien Silva, Bernanrdo Silva, Cancelo, Guerreiro, Andrè Gomes, Joao Mario etc… etc…

Netherlands have the most interesting squad for the future, in my opinion. De Vrij, Klaassen, Depay, Willems, Janssen, Karsdorp, El Ghazi, Riedelwald, Brenet, ter Avest, Nouri, Paal and Ramsleaar have all unde 24 years old.

England should follow the example of this teams. They haven’t a tradition like them and aren’t intelligent like Italy because they haven’t any squad who works to improve the local talents (AC Milan are working very well in this case with Donnarumma, Calabria, Romagnoli, Locatelli, De Sciglio).

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Does anyone rate Berardi? He is a winger/SS, with a good goalscoring record.

How do you know so many names! :open_mouth: Ontiveros, don’t think a lot of Malaguistas even know who he is haha.

Ah, that’s right, cheers @Burgundy , I’ll look to follow him. Don’t think he was in the last selection for the sub19 for some reason, but he’s in the 77 cut for http://www.futboldraft.com/futboldraft-2016/77?genre=1&position= so that’s a good sign he’s legit.

This article by the Guardian gives their list of 60 of the best young talents in world football.

From our club both Reiss and Vlad have made the list.

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The 59 best under 21 players according to FourFourTwo. It’s a reasonably good list imo though Dele Alli at #1 stinks of Premier League bias.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtwos-59-best-under-21-wonderkids-world-10-1?page=0%2C3

He’s not that young (22) but

And Benjamin Henrichs (19) - No links but still he’s looked quality so far this season for Leverkusen, can see why Rodger Schmidt likes him so much. This is probably a little premature considering he’s only played Lb 3 times this season (vs Dortmund, Monaco & Frankfurt) but if he carries on the way he’s going he could be the answer to Germany’s problems down that side.

[QUOTE]Despite his young age the Arsenal-linked hitman has been an ever-present for the Dragons this season and proved Porto’s most dangerous player, bagging six goals in 11 matches in 2016/17.
Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfourtwos-59-best-under-21-wonderkids-world-30-21?page=0%2C1#7A6a38ALAALEOrrc.99[/QUOTE]

When were we linked with him?

Seriously, though, it’s frustrating, United have Martial and Rashford, City have Agüero, Iheanacho, Unal, Gabriel Jesus, and Marlos Moreno (surely they’re not going to be able to hold onto all of these? When you include Sané, Sterling, and Díaz, they have an absolutely ridiculous wealth of young attacking talent). I don’t know what our scouting is doing in terms of young strikers, or what it has been doing over the years.

Quite a few times, but not by anyone credible.


https://www.facebook.com/notes/club-de-deportes-santa-cruz/de-entrenar-con-alexis-en-el-arsenal-a-su-debut-con-santa-cruz-el-camino-del-cra/10153998551992173

An interview with young Chilean Marcelo Allende, he actually had a trial with Arsenal (maybe two?) this year and a player we’re still following and will probably try to sign once we’re able to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT20RRAPNto

Are any of them strikers?! Portugal have needed a bloody centre forward for as long as I can remember.

Andre Silva, he’s had a ridiculous goalscoring record throughout his youth career for club & country. Now Porto’s top scorer this season with 5 goals & scored his first goal for the senior NT yesterday, still only 20.

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Are we linked to any exciting young attacking talent?

Marcelo Allende has been linked with us, but we’ve Nelson, Adelaide, Willock, Malen, Nketiah, Mavididi etc… to grow up.

Not that I know of, hence the frustration. But @Burgundy is the guy to ask here.

@Maxi_Gooner Mavididi isn’t a real prospect and Nketiah and Malen are so early in their development it’s hard to tell how it will go. It’s nothing compared to the wealth of attacking talent you see at City, where Iheanacho and Jesus are already producing at the top level and Unal and Moreno aren’t far off. There’s definitely a lot of room for improvement here, and one would hope we would do so to learn from our mistakes and avoid the attacking situation we’ve had over the last four years…we’re only slightly better off (or no better off, depending on your point of view) than we were 3-4 years ago with Malen and Nketiah vs. Sanogo and Akpom…Nketiah could easily be another Akpom as he goes further up the ranks (Mavididi also started off with a ridiculous goal scoring rate as Nketiah has now) and Malen could easily fall by the wayside, he’s not exactly advanced for his age at the moment.

Overall it’s a bit inexcusable, tbh, given how much we’ve suffered in this position.

Ok, If you talk about young talents but ready to be into the XI regulary (more or less), a team like City have more players to bring on. Ihenacho (and Sanè) is one of them and in the future Unal (is playing very well in Eredivisie), Marlos Moreno, Jesus and Zinchenko will join him.

We have only Alex Iwobi (we lost Gnabry) with the same status. Adelaide, Holding, Asano, Bielik, Niles, Zelalem, Willock, Dragomir are talented but they aren’t at the same level.

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Galatasaray debuted a 14-year-old in a friendly game today :confused:

Karamonko Cissè (13) last week, now this boy. The modern football is fucking crazy

:facepalm: