Vinai Venkatesham

I’ve said this countless times and fully agree, which is where we made the mistake. A club like ours could never be run by a novice unless you don’t care about on the field success, this is why so many of us had a meltdown when Arteta got appointed. If we wanted a project manager, we could of went in after Poch who was available at the time, gave countless interviews about how he isn’t “closing the door on anyone” and has the experience of working on a long term project with youth prospects and a limited budget. That was his forte, we could of gave him a massive contract and I’m convinced he would of taken it. Instead we hired a guy with zero experience who coached under a manager that has an unlimited budget with access to the best players in the world, it was a proper square pegs into circle holes type hire. When you step back and take a look at the management of this club it’s an absolute joke, this club is worth £5bn and is being run by three total novices.

Outside of third world dictatorships where people hire cronies and family regardless of competence where else would you see this?

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He was perfect candidate in the market

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He will become available if PSG don’t win the CL. Also wouldn’t have the hurdle of straight swap of coming from spurs either.
Never been convinced by him personally, but would have to consider him now. One way or another he would becoming back more experienced.

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The thing with Poch is he won’t win the league, but he can get us back into CL places. He has a set philosophy and knows how to nurture and work with youngsters plus he’s good at working with a limited budget. But most importantly it’s like you said - the experience. He’s done it before at Southampton and Spurs, had both teams punching well above their weight. Aside from him we really just need some one with experience and a clear direction of where they want to go.

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If there was any vision from the owners. We bin this current crop and send the bag to Marotta. He’d have an easy job convincing Conte. Marotta has bountiful experience fixing mismanaged clubs.

Infact Im surprised by the lack of noise from the owners. They can’t be happy with their asset tanking in name value and reputation like this.

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He would have the taste of what it means to be a winner.
It’s a different question if he would want to manage us after getting that taste.

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Very poor in game management and just no real ability to make proper tactical adjustments. His record in big games (CL fixtures in particular) and his poor record in must win high pressure fixtures says a lot to me about the mentality of a his teams.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Stan didn’t know. Josh looks like he would buy the line Vinai sent out about a youth project and rebuilding.

The Kroenkes are aloof and want to turn things over to someone else. Issue of course is that they hire the wrong people.

Arsenal is just another asset on the sheet for them. Hey, the Rams have a shiny new stadium. The Nuggets made the playoffs. Surely, Arsenal will come good at some point I can imagine them thinking (never mind the dynamics between how the sports are run are completely different—the draft and salary caps can save bad ownership from itself at times).

The Kroenkes will be reactive here of course. Arteta won’t be fired until it’s way too late (already is) and another lost season.

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Yeah I share a lot of them concerns. No adaptation of tactics either. We are at a different situation for me now than the last time he was available.
I was right against his appointment then, I’d be more receptive now maybe.

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Yeah for sure. I’ve never been a big Poch fan but the circumstances we find ourselves in, he wouldn’t be a bad hire at all. You imagine he’d extract a lot from the younger players.

I just remember how easily he’s been outmanoeuvred by other coaches.

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I’ve now come round more to your thinking on him.

I don’t think he’d be the best hire for us anymore.

I don’t think he’d want to coach us either.

Poch would be ok if we hadn’t already used up 8 of 9 lives, I feel like the next hire has to be the absolute perfect fit with the right backing or we are royally screwed. Unless of course the Qatari’s save us with their dirty, dirty blood money in which case everything will be ok.

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It’s obvious that Josh is not the sharpest card in the deck or streetwise so he’ll buy the line from the trio of incompetence for a while yet especially when they’re all singing the same song to him.

Unfortunately I have seen family owned businesses get into such stupidity at times even when they are very rich. At some point someone usually stumbles into hiring a good CEO/ investor to professionalise it for them although no signs of that happening anytime soon in this instance.

Football in Europe is definitely very different to how US sports leagues are run for sure.

We’ll be losing a generation of young fans now which will cause a big hole in our revenue compared with other big clubs in the years to come. Imagine being a young kid now and going to school and telling your mates you’ve become an Arsenal fan. I was in London today and all 3 Arsenal fans I spoke with were saying the only reason they haven’t binned their season tickets yet is because of the waiting list but all are losing the will to live with the club right now.

It’s certainly been getting worse before it gets better and the turning point under the current leadership looks well over the brow of the current hill.

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That is a legit concern right now.
We can’t afford to be irrelevant for far too long as the global audience will shrink.
Liverpool somehow managed to create fans despite PL failures by winning European titles but we are out of both the competition.

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That’s the big one for me.

If KSE want to own the club essentially on auto-pilot that’s fine but they need to hire people who specialize in building a style independent of the coach. There is no draft, there is no soft reset every four to six years and the chance to build again without losing ground, there is no salary cap.

It’s so clear the club need a DoF. It was clear last May and now the club have committed hundreds of millions of pounds to players that the Butthead Brothers wanted. It’s a very unhealthy situation.

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Liverpool also have a longer history. Pretty significant in the 60s,70s,80s and that with cup runs took them through a few lean years and then Houlier and Benitez made them relevant with European success.
Some won’t accept this but there base is bigger than ours.

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https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1702307005241733309?t=V80qO3mgok6CyAq9_sg1cQ&s=19

Worrying?

I hope he goes to Turkey

Ivan remontonda?

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