Viktor Gyökeres

As I said, there’s going to be a period of adaption no matter the forward. It’s not like we’re getting a Gabriel Jesus who was groomed for this role.

Cunha is the forward most similar to Jesus currently on the market…

It’s a possibility.

Sesko just needs to be a better Harvetz. Even Merino has shown he can score goals and provide link-up as the Havertz of the system.

I do have my doubts about Gyokeres too, but I simply don’t see any other option as good as him, aside Isak obvioisly who is probably a bit hard to reach.

But I can’t understand the thinking behind Sesko being a better option? Seriously, I’m not being negative, I just can’t understand it.

Yeah, he’s younger and has more room grow and adapt but he HAS to grow a lot because he simply isn’t a very impressive goalscorer atm at all. About 15ish goals in the BL in these last 2 seasons doesn’t really scream prolific at all.

And I don’t see some amazing technical quality and allround talent, that I saw with Isak at Sociedad for example, that will make you ignore his lack of goals and still make you hopeful about his developement.
He absolutely MIGHT turn into a top striker, no one can deny that, but there’s not many things that are making me super confident abut that atm really.

Now this is a strange one. By everything I saw from both it’s the opposite. Gyokeres actually gets much more involved in the game besides the goals, insane work rate, moves to the fanks and creates danger with his pace and dribbling, not to mention his pressing etc.

Not sure why are so negative about him fitting into our system. I think he would almost be perfect for us. Naturally likes to press a lot, Arteta will love that. He’ll move to the flanks and help our wingers, but also knows his place in the box and I think he’s one of the best finishers around atm and he’ll get his numbers.

A good point about a high number of penalties, but there are hardly any top strikers who don’t score a decent amount of pens. If you start stripping everyone off of pens everything looks different.
How many non penalty goals does Sesko have btw? 10-12? He makes Havertz look like a prolific goalscorer :jorginho:
18 non penalty goals (if I catched correctly) is still very good for Gyokeres. Doesn’t sound as impressive as 30 goals, but if you take away some pens, and if you leave some (a minimal amount every top striker has) that’s still 20+ league goals only, in a season that’s still going. That’s still very good, combined with all other qualities he has.

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I just clicked on this after seeing 40+ new posts on the topic. I genuinely was expecting an Orny bomb. Don’t do this to me guys!! :face_with_peeking_eye:

@The_Invincibles

Have to add some addtitional stuff too :wright:

Besides his stats in portugal, I have to go back to that game against us. I thought he looked very positive overall. At the start Gabriel was closing him down perfectly and he couldn’t do much. There aren’t many strikers who will look good one on one against Gabriel and Saliba really.
But he had a few nice moves in the second halfy especially that turn and run against Saliba.

Proved he’s not just a guy who bullies farmers in Portugal. For me he proved he has the athleticism and the skill to compete and thrive againt the PL defenders, and that’s super important.
Also shown some great stuff against City. (One or two freaky misses, Haaland has those too, but some amazing runs also).

What’s very important, besides the goals, and besides him and Isak I don’t see a more proven and better available goalscorer out there, he will offer what we were lacking all the way since Jesus’ first injuries… A striker who will ask questions to the defenfers, go one on one with them constantly, etc. Not just be a goalscorer and a link guy like Havertz. As @Darkseid poined, he’s a weirdly good dribbler for a guy of his size. I wouldn’t go as far as to compare him to Suarez, that’s a different level. But does have freakishly good balance and agility for that size and uses it well in the duels, along with his pace and good control.
Overall now I’m thinking his profile is closer to a prime Torres than Suarez. More of an aggressive athlete than a skilled street footballer, but I will still happily take this.

We can’t continue to rely only on Saka, and maybe another in form player, to be a constant threat one on one. Gyokeres will be a very important addition in that department too.

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Think you could go into a bit more detail tbh @Pires

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Can’t tell if that’s sarcasm or :pires2:

In what specific way?

I believe he’s being sarcastic

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i reckon he wanted more details and a deeper dive into more specifics tbh :trossard:

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Word count was set at 3000, still a long way to go for my liking.

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Iwobi looks good, would be the first choice for our left flank atm probably.

3!!

Van Dijk got fried there by Muniz!

Wrong thread!

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Excellent posts @Pires - I didn’t expect to generate such a debate! You make some excellent points and to clarify, I am not adverse to Gyokeres. Ultimately I have complete faith in Arteta and the club/Berta to make the right decisions this summer, so if they think he is the right guy for us, then I can get behind him as our striker target.

My concern is that this is such a critical position for us. All the pundits and fans have been banging on about, for over a year now, is that we need to sign a striker, so whoever we buy, is going to be under intense scrutiny, especially if they don’t start the season scoring. I can see the narrative now! So we have to get this decision right.

Gyokeres has a lot of positives. My main concerns remain:

  • (1) his lack of headed goals (a weakness in our team given how we deliver set pieces now);
  • (2) whether he can adapt to the Premier League and score the same number of goals as he’s done in Portugal (given the number of pens and the likely drop off in numbers given the PL is more competitive);
  • (3) whether he can fit into our system (I am still not convinced); and
  • (4) I still find it is strange that no other big clubs made a move for him last summer - given the lack of quality strikers, I find the lack of interest a concern.

When it comes to Sesko, I think he will be a quality striker. As others have said not what we need now, but I’d take him as long as we make a new winger or No.10 our marquee signing instead.

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Only time will tell

He did ok in his last coventry season alas it wasn’t the premier league

His 21 goals and 12 assists last season made him one of the Championship’s most prized assets - and took the Sky Blues to the brink of a return to the top flight for the first time in 22 years.

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That’s the issue though…I think it showed he was able to adapt to playing in England but question remains if he can score the same numbers as he has done in Portugal. Nketiah would probably get a similar number of goals for a good Championship side…doesn’t mean he is the striker Arsenal needs though!

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He doesn’t need to.

20 goals is more than ok for me

Taking my chances with a certified hitter from the Championship over the a so so record in the Bundesliga.

% of guys who have proven records in the championship translating well to top level prem is very clear.

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We expected him to score 30, and now 20 is ok?I

We’re possibly about to have a season where we don’t see anyone hit ten. So yea, 20 is ok.

30 premier league goals is very unrealistic expectations to have