Tuchel or Wenger next season

Mashugana.

at least I know for the future if you ever annoy me, what annoys you :slight_smile:

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Oh christ! He is back with it!

youā€™re making it sound like I say it all the time, only once every so often

Oh Luke, youā€™re a good boy. Weā€™re just winding you up. :wink:

What possible benefit could there be to having Wenger for 2 years and then hoping someone better is available then? To make sure Ramsey commits long term? To make sure Giroud hits 100 goals?

Tuchel becoming our manager doesnā€™t mean that he has to be our manager for 8 years. We could just as easily get rid of him in 2 years time if he fails.

We need change. He might be the right fit but Iā€™d rather take the chance than not.

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David Moyes might have been the right fit for United too, and they took the chance. 4 years later and LVG and Mourinho still canā€™t right the sinking ship that was the transition Moyes managed.

Going to pick anyone over The King of Excuses aka Specialist in Failure any time. Yesterdayā€™s comments infuriate me even more, about how WHU played in holiday mood already or how Chelsea were going to face a very different battle next year also having CL football in their calendar which was going to be a very different experience than what Real Madrid or Bayern Munich have because they can afford to put only 50% effort in a lot of their league games. Damn this guys sounds more and more like a Reddit member and not a football manager of one of the worldā€™s biggest clubs.

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I made this thread not because these are the only two definite options, far from, but to gauge how much people on this forum really want Wenger out. If youā€™re prepared for an underwhelming Tuchel to take over, then you really must have had enough of Wenger, ha.

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Tuchel would make it more interesting in terms of tactics, you wouldnā€™t have a clue what weā€™re playing week to week.

But the defence would be just as bad if not worse, he hasnā€™t donā€™t much to convince me heā€™d be better than Wenger especially making a step up.

People are talking about like Tuchel like he is a totally known entity. We donā€™t really know how heā€™d do at Arsenal. For me he fits the profile of the type of manager we should be looking atā€¦we need someone who can develop a youth project and have a vision. He is certainly less of a known entity than Allegri but considering our competition I am not sure Allegri would be enough to compete with Chelsea, City, United, Tottenham, and Liverpool. Our best bet is a somewhat more risky one like Tuchel or another up and coming manager, for me.

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Yeah Iā€™ll admit Iā€™m know quite there yet.

Allegri, Simeone, Sampaoli, Jardim, Ancelotti, Emery, etc. etc. yes sure, great, get them in immediately at all costs.

Martinez, Tuchel, Benitez, Howe etc. not so much.

I proposed Emery last summer but after his season at PSG Iā€™m not sure how you can put him in that category and Tuchel in the other.

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Heā€™s just not ready and what heā€™s done at Dortmund so far isnā€™t terrible but isnā€™t encouraging either.

He lacks the experience and nous at this stage, wouldnā€™t take the club forward as he is now.

Also I blame PSG players especially for the fiasco in the CL, it was damn near the bottle job of the decade. Monaco are deserving winners of Ligue 1 to be fair.

Well Emery still has 3 EL trophies and was doing as well as he could in La Liga with the Sevilla team he had.

Tuchel hasnā€™t really done anything. Emery has just had an off season against a ridiculously resurgent Monaco team.

Accidentally voted for Wenger :grimacing:

Tuchel is one of my top 3 Wenger replacements

Why do you rate Tuchel so highly ? Who are other 2 that you would have above him in an ideal world ?

Next thread: Howe or Wenger

Release date tbc

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  • 15/16 Bundesliga season, pushing Pepā€™s Bayern all the way with a very good points tally. Would have probably won it in most seasons.
  • Style of football matters for me, and his is very good.

Sarri and Allegri are my two others.

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Iā€™m not necessarily convinced by Tuchel, but you have to feel like heā€™s managing a club that have been making constant changes over the last few seasons and are relying heavily on a combination of new players and young player as well as a few older heads who probably have regressed a bit over the years. Not to mention someone like Reus, who is undoubtedly a top talent, has suffered so badly from injuries heā€™s almost a non entity these days.

When you take all that into account he hasnā€™t done the worst job in the world over at Dortmund.