Andrew Neil said the EU nations have imported £35bn worth of Russian energy since the start of the invasion. The dependency is very strong
I see the news a few days back was all about the missile attack killing civilians at a Ukraine train station.
But what about the American and British invasions of Iraq and shouldn’t we be talking about the war crimes of Bush and Blair instead on this thread and in the news?
And although Putin has over 80 percent support from the Russian people and it’s his Russian soldiers allegedly doing this murdering and raping surely it can’t be right to sanction all those poor innocent Russians unless you’re a racist Russophobic person?
And shouldn’t we be supporting those poor innocent Russian people by buying their oil and gas from them?
And then again didn’t Zelensky force Putin into doing this really and if you were capable of superior nuanced thinking and you understood what was really going on wouldn’t this be obvious to you?
And actually isn’t it certain that Zelensky ran off to Poland ages ago and the whole Johnson visit to Kyiv was made up just like the American moon landings?
And isn’t it Ukrainians who are murdering their own civilians rather than the poor Russian soldiers anyway?
And in the end the problem here is all the false propaganda from the biased capitalist western media with all its vested interests isn’t it?
Is this the thread where you can truly come to read any old load of bollox and isn’t it true that this post is really the biggest load of bollox of all?
This thread and the covid thread are the worst threads we’ve ever had on this site 
Kiev was never surrounded though.
Why does it matter?
I guess it doesn’t really matter, tbh. Other than wanting to know the truth, the lies from previous wars has made me sceptical of war reports and propaganda.
#SaddamWMDs
Saddams supposed wmd’s was a bit different in a way. That story was mainly sold by Bush himself and his ministers, riding on 9/11. It didn’t take much to convince American citizens of their existence. Meanwhile Hans Blix was out in media all over the world saying that they have found no evidence whatsoever of any wmd’s.
These quotes are from an Irish Senator who has now twice gone to Ukraine since the invasion began. No reason I can think of for him to be anything but honest about what he saw there.
To say that the region has been devastated is an understatement.
"Houses have been bombed, they have been taken down by tanks. They’ve been set fire to, they’ve been ransacked, they have used shells and all sorts of mortars to destroy these citizen’s homes.
"This was an attack on civilians and you know the Russian Federation would have you believe that this kind of stuff is a figment of the imagination of the Western world. Well, I can tell you, from my perspective it is not
Plenty more here:
Whether they accidentally sank it themselves or it was hit by a Ukrainian missile I can not imagine how much it would suck being the person that has to tell Putin they lost their flagship to a country that dosnt have a navy.
Laughable.
Nothing surprises me when it comes to warfare 
They’ve been at war with Ukraine for 2 months…
I’m sure sections of the Internet are mocking these men but if they didn’t do this, they were probably dead or at least in for a very severe beating. If they haven’t been already in non-visible areas.
This is an interesting no nonsense video of Patrick Lancaster an American independent journalist. Embedded with the Russian front line soldiers.
Worth a watch to see real close quarter urban warfare action (as far as I have seen there is no gore or anything). Patrick comments on what is going on while live fire is exchanged.
(Also notice the Russians wearing the white armbands, of which we saw many dead bodies in Bucha wearing it too.)
Don’t fret though, at least we wont let those heathens play tennis with us!
