The Labour Party

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Put her out her misery.

Fast track get to her real goal - lectures about nothing for hedge funds and think tanks

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When you see that, it just shows you how people have used these issues as an excuse for things people simply got on with in older generations.

Giving payments to people with ADHD? I know a woman who lives between my area and NYC, successfully running her own small business and holds online influence and she didn’t use her ADHD as an excuse or crutch to rely on.

I don’t wish to sound all Tory with this, but if funds are short, spend it on the right things to start with.

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There has to be nuance, and it doesn’t sound like there is.

For some people, the severity of their ADHD or autism or other kinds of neuro diversity will genuinely impair their ability to function in adult life and those people will be vulnerable and need help.

For others, like myself (with autism), it has a significant impact on my life (although not all negative) and since I acknowledged that and started taking steps to address it and (for example) asked my employer to make reasonable adjustments to help me manage it, my situation has improved. But I don’t need financial assistance or social care and unless something neurologically changes for me quite profoundly I can’t imagine I ever will. But I can see how someone could use my diagnosis (which is quite a long document, not just a statement that I am autistic) to make claims under the current system. And that is profoundly unhelpful to everyone and damaging to the welfare system and people in receipt of much needed benefits.

Anyway, the TLDR is that not all of those payments are frivolous and unnecessary and a proper process to reform welfare has to take account of that.

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I’m glad my post wasn’t taken as inflammatory - I have experience of people who do use their ailments as an excuse and on the other hand, know those who don’t let it define them. There are also plenty who are quick to self diagnose, who really are just piss takers.

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I understood exactly where you are coming from.

As an autistic person and a parent of a child with many complex interacting needs including autism, I am quite concerned by the explosion in numbers of diagnoses and the length of waiting lists for people who really need help.

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Listen, this ballooning Welfare Bill thing, I’ll say a couple things.

  • As we saw with the Winter Fuel Allowance fiasco. Not everyone entitled to Pension Credit actually claimed it. Until they tried to scrap a component away which would’ve fucked those that needed it. This also applies to other welfare. It’s not ‘current’ news now but we got plunged into a cost of living crisis which saw expenses skyrocket. If you qualified and saw needed additional income quickly, the decision to take is obvious.

  • Making it harder to qualify doesn’t actually fix anything except punish honest people (and thus make them more dishonest). Okay, let’s talk about cheats and fraudsters. First of all, they will always INTEND to cheat ANY SYSTEM. They don’t care about the rules, they are a means to be abused. They don’t stop the people you think it’s meant to (If you believe in the sincerity of the aims, which you shouldn’t).

  • PIP in many cases be the difference between a disabled/vulnerable person being able to be a ‘productive member of society’ or just sitting at home ‘sitting on welfare’. Being disabled can be costly. Here’s an easy non-disabled example. Think about the cost of having bad eyesight. Imagine how much annoying things would be if you couldn’t fix that problem.

  • If you believe this issue is really a problem, Labour’s ‘attempt’ doesn’t fix shit. Fiddling around with a system that bought it to this state that you believe is out of control fits in nicely these ‘I don’t believe in anything’ goofs. Starmer’s original (Good chance he was faking it) position of scrapping it was the correct position if this is such a bad system (it is). Which he u-turned to what I think was always his original intention to u-turn on that anyway. Idiot.

  • Back to Labour, pushing people into work is a joke, when I interacted with UC. It was quite common to advertise temp jobs or zero hour contracts. They still claimed UC (Normally to say. pay rent) because the pay wasn’t enough. But with that aside how are you getting people into work into jobs that aren’t permanent (if the opportunities are even there?)

  • This isn’t a callout but it’s interesting how the narrative has gone from stopping cheaters to simply there’s too many claiming. It’s become a numbers game. Very slick.

  • We shouldn’t forget the backdrop of why this discussion or ‘problem’ even exists, the country is fucked. By the same establishment goofballs who claim this is a huge issue they need to resolve. So we’re going to slash the welfare bill down to fit our spreadsheet nice…when does improving the country happen? Maybe I should ask my parachuted Starmer loyalist MP when does any plan to end the deprivation and bring prosperity to Margate and Broadstairs occur.

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How odd. I’m sympathetic to whatever personal problem she has going on but we can’t have the Chancellor of the United Kingdom in tears in the Chamber during PMQs. The markets are watching ffs

Horrible look.

https://x.com/PippaCrerar/status/1940411567645806767

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Ahh fuck yeah I was pretty drunk lol

Fml probably early onset Alzheimer’s at this rate :sweat_smile::sweat_smile:

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On the issue of the narrative of too many claiming, I do think that in areas like neuro diversity that diagnoses are particularly vulnerable to dishonest people using them to access welfare but I think there are also well meaning people pushing for diagnoses for family members to try to “explain” something about them and this is a problem for exactly the mostly vulnerable people that you’ve discussed.

I think it’s harmful if becomes perception that autism or ADHD are trivial and more widespread that they really are for example.

I wholeheartedly agree that this is a completely broken system being played politics with by successive very shit governments. And it’s very telling that nobody in power that talks about “difficult choices” would ever talk about when exactly these choices are supposed to pay off and for whom.

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By the way. for your information. Starmer was sworn in the 5th July.

What a snapshot 1 year in. Reeves crying, Starmer’s authority and popularity in the mud.

I did not think it’d be this bad.

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Well it’ll be interesting to see how Reform handle being in government

What a disgraceful performance by Reeves as well. Even if you accept the extremely dubious claim that she was crying about something other than her monumental professional humiliation, who can go into the most frontline aspect of their job and start crying? It would destroy your credibility in any profession.

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You just reminded me of Gallas, thanks

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Painful memories returning…

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But that is exactly the territory she’s in. Except instead of crying because your team mate got his leg snapped by some caveman and the last straw being that the ref fucked you on a penalty, she was crying because her plan to further impoverish some of the most vulnerable people in society failed.

And that’s what she was doing during what was supposed to be a serious parliamentary discussion of these policies. Absolute failure.

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Unfortunately, consciously or unconsciously the only reason that Rachel Reeves crying in the Commons is in news is because she is a woman, and the inference being made is if you cry you’re automatically a weak person. Utter nonsense and it is a shame this appears to be being blown out of all proportion.

Na, it’s because she’s a major politician.

Rishi Sunak standing in the rain was in the news for days.

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Absolute nonsense. Any politician, male or female, that had done that would be in for massive criticism and rightly so.

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