In short, labour spent money to benefit the country and it’s population.
I don’t think it needs saying what the Tories do with it.
I don’t chime in too much on political talk as I’m not particularly informed but the notion that the left spend money to benefit the people seems a little rich.
As somebody who directly benefitted from EMA and being incentivised to go to college, I appreciate that their funding can hugely support working class people. I also get the impression that left governments seem to think that there is a magical money tree and the long-term impact is damaging.
I could be completely wrong on this but it appears that left governments provide opportunity at the cost of individual and national debt.
It wss a labour government that bought in 9k a year uni fees, wasn’t it?
I’m a bit like you, don’t really chime in too much because I’m not as informed as some in here, but surely you must see that saying the left parties of the country thinking there’s some magic money tree but even I’m aware that the countries debt as a percentage of gdp is the biggest it’s been since the 50’ or 60’s.
These people have ruined our country and they try to defect the fact by creating absurd fucking policies on immigration thinking the average educated person will jump on board with their borderline BNP policies and forget what a fucking mess they’re making. All whilst our generations of young people are being turned into pond level intelligence through social media, honestly, this country is so fucked.
I didn’t vote for this shit show of a government and no one voted for the last two cretins that have taken up free residence of downing street.
I thought that was the Tory/Lib coalition.
I recall Nick Clegg getting hammered for it, because being against these fees was one of the main elements of their manifesto, and it was abandoned.
Labour brought in £3k fees
I stopped voting.
This might be a poor analogy but let’s give it a go:
Your wife racks up 17k of credit debt. This debt is accrued by buying Uber Eats whilst you’re away, overspending on family holidays, digital gaming tokens for the kids and the best possible clothing. Everybody is happy and feels like life is great. You then realise that there has been years of reckless spending.
As a result, you take over the financial reins after four years of chaos. It’s cooked food every night, only one dance class for your daughters instead of modern, jazz, taop, street and ballet - your sons now wear 45 pound boots instead of £150. You still maintain your car though because it’s on finance and to your knowledge the family finances were under control.
Is it possible that the Tories are the dad here? Look, I don’t vote anymore and if I did it probably wouldn’t be Tory, but I’d be interested to see the hard stats on gdp, employment, imprisonment, house ownership, birthrates etc under the last 10 pms (it has to be ten due to recent turnover).
I’m wrong then on the 9k fees. I remember going to College and Uni under a labour government admittedly and opportunity that wouldn’t have been as accessible under a Tory government.
So it is fair to suggest that Tony Blair and his Labour government were the first to bring in loans and debt for swathes of working class people in this country?
They also were giving out fat maintenance loans as well.
Thankful for the opportunity but where did this money come from? Also billions (maybe trillions) were spent on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The Tories are turning middle Eastern refuges away, Labour were bombing the shit out of their countries.
I’ll stop now as the current government reek but the idea that things get better under labour seems unlikely.
@Truth_hurts the reputation the Tories had for supposedly being a safe hand with taxpayers money is long gone. In your analogy they’d be the friend the family invite over that would be stealing from them on the sly.
Fair.
A lot of people say this. The mess around pensions has made many lose faith in them as well.
It was a much happier country for a start. No division, people living comfortably etc. If it wasn’t for the bank crisis I doubt there’d even be a talking point regarding their handling of the finances.
I was definitely happy partying on a Thursday night with Labours college grants. The money dropped in at 12am on a Friday.
Also very thankful for the support with travel when I could and did walk to college. Very micro case study of what may have been a macro issue.
You are right though. Nobody seems happy at the moment.
Nice. Not like we have a social care crisis
London should be burning.
I’d be up for the burning of a couple of listed buildings if it meant proper social care funding.
Somehow the Tories can get away with moves like this that overwhelmingly fuck part of their own support base.
If we actually had let him and not been so stupid and selfish, Jeremy Corbyn would have fixed a lot of his country.
But alas England didn’t want fixing so elected the worst drunken evil corrupt government going.
Surely the solution is to have Tory spivs in charge of social healthcare, and then the government will give them loads of money in dodgy contracts 
Could you honestly imagine Corbyn leading the country during a pandemic?!
Seems a good guy and he was actually a lefty far more in tune with what a Labour leader should be instead of the pseudo right-wing Labour leaders of recent past.
I like what he stood for but not sure how effective that he would have been.