Bitch ass waffler
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The fact that Eze’s goal is being reduced to a goal from a set play shows how unsettled they are. He’s scored a goal by striking with both feet off the floor.
They’re rattled
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Zubimendi’s volley from the edge of the area went down as a set play goal
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So how do teams usually win set pieces and corners? We tend to play quite a lot of our football in the final third from what I see.
I do agree that the setpiece goals scored by Arsenal this season is art. There is no impeding goalkeepers - just sheer movement, chaos, impeccable runs and worldclass deliveries.
However, I don’t care if not all teams can do it or can’t do it well. I just don’t like setpiece goals as match deciders especially if two teams are performing equally well.
But a goal mouth scramble from open play when two teams are playing equally well is more valid?
As you have made clear, it’s basically just idealism that is the foundation of your view. Which is fine, but there’s no real need to justify it with some long-winded line of ‘logic’. You are welcome to just not like set piece goals.
Wow!
Yeah, this is what is very funny about the whole debate. There hasn’t been a lot of criticism for teams just setting up in a low block and looking to score on the counter.
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You are looking at larger football stories from a narrow Arsenal’s peephole. There are tons of shit teams who win corners by specifically playing towards it. It doesn’t require an excellent bit of play to win corners. It does require a great deal of good open play to get goal mouth scramble. I shouldn’t need to convince you about this. You are being purposely obtuse.
Yes, absolutely. It is equivalent to two strong boxers going at it with one losing stamina & concentration sooner. Whereas winning by setpieces are often a boxer taking a lucky cheap shot & get an underserved victory.
ha. That’s what I did. You asked me to justify.
@Bavin has done it again. Masterful.
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Yea a tad misleading like. It’s technically a set piece in the same way Brentfords first against pool is but they aren’t the same thing.
I didn’t truly realise how hated we were until we became relevant again 
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Wait til we whip out our etihad tactic again.
Which teams are these? Name 20, since there are “tons”.
It also doesn’t necessarily require a great deal of good open play or an “excellent piece of play” to get a goal mouth scramble lol another thing you just made up to try and support your point.
No it’s not like that lol a fight sport analogy is a poor one to use because a) you dont know anything about it and b) it has ongoing scoring being judged all the time. Or do football teams get rewarded for the amount of successful passes or shots on target compared to their opponent like a fighter would accrue points for successful jabs landed without actually causing noticeable damage with each individual jab alone?
Teams could very well do as you describe except the goal comes from a corner rather than open play and most of the same building blocks would exist in both scenarios.
As you’ve already admitted, it’s just idealism on your part.
I’m happy if you just don’t like them but, as before, the long-winded logic to try and justify their lower validity is just idealism.
Lol
20 would require some bit of research. I will give you 10-11.
Over many years of watching football, I can name below teams who didn’t have much in the way of general play but got corners to score from
Stoke
Blackburn
Bolton
Wigan
Fulham
WestBrom
Middlesbrough
Everton
Birmingham
Manchester United vs Bayern 99
Chelsea vs Bayern CL final
Forget 20. Give me just 3 examples where a goal mouth scramble came out of an underserved bit of open play. Lol
You asked for a justification. I can’t help it if you find it long winded. I never demanded you to accept it for anything other than idealism.
Why are you so hell bent on proving it to be idealism when no one denied it? Haha lol
So like 10-11 in the last 20 years? I don’t really think that is tons of teams tbh. If I am being obtuse, you are grossly exaggerating.
It doesn’t really require a specific example, it’s something that is easily possible in a game of football, which is my point. Unless you genuinely believe it is not possible for a team to have minimal chances, possession and score a scrambled goal off one chance? In that case, you are the one being obtuse.
Well initially you were suggesting curbing them because they are based on luck, but there’s not a whole lot that really supports your assertion. It also seemed as though you were implying they were less valid than open play goals regardless of context.
If you’re happy to just say it’s idealism and not really based on anything specific other than vibes then cool, we can leave it at that.
I actually agree with your preference of seeing goals from great pieces of play but as I said above it’s just not always a reality at the top level and that’s a trend which is quite identifiable at the top end in basically any sport.
Most Man City goals are scored by Haaland, who only plays for them because they offered more wages than any other club, which is paid for by money laundering owners and without his goals. they’d be a lot lower in the league.
We’re a well run club that don’t rely on a freak striker to get goals and most of our first team players have scored this season, which is conveniently ignored by the media.
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Yea like everyone else not called Nicolas Jover
Guardiola being sarcastic wading in on set pieces, without actually mentioning Arsenal.
Rather than criticising us for set pieces, which is perfectly within the rules, perhaps the lazy Guardian reporter should ask the Man City manager how he won so many titles with them and if he did everything by the rules.
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Pep came to the Emirates and parked the proverbial bus. Shut it you bald twat!
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The game has become a lot more organised and as a result defences are much more compact and programmed, especially against teams like us who are known to play attacking football. As a result, it’s no wonder teams are earning more throws and corners due to the defensive compactness of opponent defenses. It’s just the way things evolve.
Arteta has accepted the evolution in his stride and developed our set piece game to our advantage. I see nothing wrong there.
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Curious to see how Guardiola does when the clubs are on level playing field.
Finished 13 points behind league leaders last season. Bar Rodri, He has a fully fit squad with tons of fresh recruits so he should go toe to toe.
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