Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang

Sure, he got old in an intensely demanding league where no forward has remained elite at age 31+ in the last 20 years.

There you go.

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If hes still with Barca next season how do u figure he’ll do in the CL then?

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No idea, but not really relevant to his ability to perform week-in-and-week-out in the PL at an advanced age.

Aubameyang had more or less the same PL age trajectory as every other elite forward in the world’s most demanding league, falling off badly somewhere between the ages of 29-31. How did Pep fuck up Sergio Aguero? How did United fuck up Robin Van Persie, Wayne Rooney, and Alexis Sanchez? How did Chelsea fuck up Didier Drogba? How did your personal demigod Arsene manage to fuck up Thierry Henry in his last season before he left for Barcelona?

Interesting take when most leading goals scorers of Europe’s top 5 leagues are in their 30s. And a 37 year old Ronaldo just scored 24 goals for united this last season. Times have changed and recovery science has become infinitely better for athletes. Most of the doods you’ve mentioned have had major injuries through their careers too. Auba is never injured so that wouldnt have been an issue. Idk man seems like u have an agenda. Auba’s physical traits haven’t fallen off at all unlike RVP (injury prone) Rooney (didn’t take care of his body) Aguero (small guy who’s now retired) Alexis (also slighter build + billions of minutes on his legs getting hacked in South America for Chile). Ibra scored 17 at the age of around 35 too btw.

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Ronaldo had 15 non-penalty goals in the PL for a team that did nothing but fire balls into him and looked like he was running in sand most of the year. Ibra also scored 14 non-penalty goals and contribute nothing otherwise. And yet those are two of the best seasons by aged 31+ strikers in the PL in the last 20 years.

If your argument is just that guys are doing it in other leagues, then you have no argument. Those leagues are much less physically demanding and older strikers have been doing well in places like Spain and Italy for a long time.

Maybe I wasn’t paying close enough attention but I didn’t feel like Auba’s body went into a rapid decline. It just looked like he was fed up to me. I haven’t watched anything other than clips at Barca so not sure what state he’s in now though.

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How do you how measure how physically demanding a league is and why does the EPL appear to be on the top?

I can’t say definitively that playing up front for Arsenal is more physically demanding compared to Barca

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just fine, like most 32 yo top athletes.

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The game is played at a higher tempo and involves more sprinting, the defenders are more physical and athletic, and the weather is a lot worse.

There are a variety of studies showing the first, the second is subjective but I would argue pretty clear, and the third is obvious.

Salah this year 18 non pen goals, 1 every 155 minutes. Mane 16 non pen goals, 1 every 176 minutes, Ronaldo 15 non pen goals, 1 every 163 minutes…

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I hope @Powderfinger is right, because that means Kane and Son will be cactus in anywhere from 12-36 months.

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Ronaldo is one of the greatest players ever and is also well-known for having an exceptional physique. He’d be an exception to the rule.

Vardy had 15 goals in like 1800 minutes this season too, 1 goal in every 120 minutes and that doods like 35.

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Vardy is maybe the biggest exception of the last 20-25 years to the ā€œevery PL forward declines sometime between the ages of 29-31ā€ tendency. He didn’t actually play professional football until he was 24 though so he had a pretty unusual career trajectory with very few miles on his tires.

Alan Shearer was also quite good at age 31+ for a few years, but nowhere near the level of his 20s.

The single best season aged 31+ is probably Didier Drogba at 31, who had a monster year that was sandwiched by multiple mediocre years beforehand and multiple mediocre years afterward. :person_shrugging:

Overall there are maybe 2-3 seasons by any striker aged 31+ in the last 20-25 years that matched or exceeded Auba’s production during 2018-2019 or 2019-2020 when he was 29-30. So expecting him to have kept up that production the last couple years is equivalent to expecting him to have been the best age 31+ PL striker of the last 25 years.

I know its more convenient just to blame it all on Arteta.

Lol, so now the last 3 examples of guys who’ve proven ur narrative wrong are freak exceptions :+1::+1: Like I said its a relatively new thing due to sports science being much better. 20 or 25 years ago if you had a knee injury they’d butcher ur leg to fix it, now it’s arthroscopic, and ur back on the field in no time. Again look at the top 5 leagues in europe and tell me who the top goal scorer is. Majority of them are 30+. So maybe it’s just convenient for u to blindly make excuses for a dumb club/manager idk?

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He’s a great striker.

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15 goals straight up no penos. He woulda been challenging for the golden boot if not injured and missed 2 months of the season. Buy yeah strikers older than 30 aren’t any good apparently :woozy_face::woozy_face:

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Well Auba wasn’t and that’s all that matters for this thread.

Whether it’s age, lack of interest or Mikel…the guy turned to complete turd here missing sitters from 2 yards.

He’s gone, game over.

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Back to other leagues again.

A few elite seasons in 20-25 years is statistically minuscule in the PL. That they are the only exceptions proves the strength of the rule.

But keep obsessing about cone boi and randomly bumping threads about long gone players to pathetically bitch about him.

Your boy Klopp is smart enough to see it. He’s not waiting to find out with Mane and they seem likely to let Salah walk next summer rather than handing him the bag at 31.