I still prefer Fergie. Guardiola is second though
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And tbf, he has done it without copious amounts of money. At Aberdeen.
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In the fashion that he did too.
Always setting the standard others follow with his continuous reinvention and an always attractive and dominant style of play.
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This debate is as pointless and boring as Messi/Ronaldo.
There is an obvious right answer and those who donāt want to admit it just draw arbitrary lines in the sand to go against it.
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Football was different then though. The game has changed so much. You get exceptions to the rule but the money is largely concentrated amongst a very small amount of clubs and they all spend billions ever years improving their squads.
United spend as much as City and Chelsea spent over half a billion. PSG spent Ā£400m on Neymar and Mbappe alone. The game has gone.
You can only judge someone by what they achieve in their respective eras. I think Fergie is the greatest but I think Pepās success is too often downplayed and attributed to money when itās just too simplistic a way to look at it.
Tactically he is so far ahead of the rest of the pack. Heās managed to continue evolving and maintaining a ridiculously high standard for the last 15 years and thatās not easy. Heās dominated the PL in a way only Fergie ever did.
Guardiola is the best manager of all time imo. This isnāt even a contest.
The style of play alone is leagues above everyone else.
I call him a bald fraud out of jest and disdain, but heād best all the greatest club teams with this Man City or his previous Barca teams.
Even with no money, Iām convinced heād be able to do multiple āLeicestersā
I think itās probably just still an āacuteā pain for a lot of us. To see us lose out on the league and then see another team do a treble while weāve been contestingā¦man, itās hard. Not as hard as 99, but this is a bitter pill to swallow.
There is the money factor within it, however, and it canāt be ignored. Man Cityās bench is amazing.
A more interesting question might be- if we had Pep instead of Arteta from January onwards, would he have won us the league?
(Probably just as āpie in the skyā a question as the āwhoās the greatest manager ever?ā tbf)
Can the Saudiās please offer him a fortune to go manage over there.
Fuck Pep. Fuck City. Fuck Football.
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OOOOOOOOOH YEEEEEEAH
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Donāt worry fella the FFP are
Seriously on to City . Theyāll be the PL version of Rangers FC .
If only 
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It will soon be over
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I wonder who theyāre lining up to replace him and if heāll leave us to join them.
That would pretty much put the seal on the PLās transformation into a glorified Bundesliga.
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Why you would choose to not take in context when making your opinion on the best manager will never make sense to me though. Also not discussing it, on a football forum, in summer 
I mean this is what we do.
He is clearly good imo, one of the best probablyā¦ but do I personally think a dozen managers could take a team that had just won the PL a year ago, spend unparalleled amounts of money to keep winning the league when no other team has that same advantage?
Yes, I do, in fact Iām convinced, look at Klopp who beat him even with that disadvantage, and won the CL before he did, with that disadvantage. Do I think that if you gave Klopp Man City and Ā£1bn or w/e it is, and gave Pep Liverpool and a quarter of that, that Klopp would win the league 5 times and probably the CL more than once? yes I do.
It is ofc also speculation, we will never know and that is my main argument, not that I know that he is not the best, just that we canāt know and I think the difference in conditions is so severe and significant they need to be considered.
And you can still prefer Pepās style, I donāt mind, you can choose other metrics, Zidane won 3 CLs in 4 years or w/e it was, I donāt mind. I just donāt agree you can just say āwon most, is bestā without context.
I mean we use context in other areas why not here. I donāt hear anyone say Kim Jong Un is definitely the best choice for great leader, he got 100% of the votes, no point in arguing why that is, just accept that he is the best and stop overthinking peeps.
One thing I did realise however, is that, say City were found guilty and they decide (Serie A style, which probably wonāt happen but for shits and giggles) to strip them of their titles and you just put #2 as the league winnerā¦ we will get this years PL trophy I think it is super unfair for a myriad of reasonsā¦but at least we get something 
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https://twitter.com/guardian_sport/status/1668190944552787970
Pep about to get whoever is Spainās coach in 2025 fired. 
9 years at one club will have been a dynasty.
If he wins another 2 league titles heād be sitting at 7 in 9 years which is frankly ridiculous.
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Outclassed twice in 2 CL finals against Pep. Outclassed and destroyed.
He himself admitted that he has never seen anything like the football Pep produced against him in the 2 CL finals.