Bravo in his prime? Did you see him play in the PL?
What you just said does zero to negate the fact the City team was full of absolute garbage that needing clearing out in a climate where transfer fees had gone out of control.
Give Pep the Liverpool team that Klopp eventually won a title with and he can do it also, the notion that he is incapable of getting there in similar circumstances is based on the fact that he simply hadn’t had to whilst at City, that doesn’t prove he couldn’t in fact do it .
Yes let’s give Pep the title-winning squad that took less than 50% of Pep’s City budget.
You see the ridiculousness of defending Pep’s expenditure to arrive at same outcome that Klopp did with much worse inherited squad and much less transfer budget
It negates your notion that Pep needed to spend a lot of money to make that City squad work.
The squad had
Fernandinho, De Bruyne, Silva, Sterling, Aguero
Those players were already there when he came in and only area that Pep needed to fix was the defence. The attack & midfield was sorted and those players are still playing for Pep in 2022.
There is no need for Pep to spend a billion dollars to fix that squad.
Add Stones, Gundogan, G.Jesus and Sane to the mix who arrived with Pep in 2016. The midfield & attack is even more stacked & complete.
Klopp won the PL title with a team including Milner and Henderson and buying players like Salah, Mane, Robertson, TAA, Firminho etc, who any decent PL club could have afforded.
The only players who were expensive were Allison and VVD and they were bought from the money they got for Coutinho.
Guardiola spent more on two FB’s and Stones than Klopp’s net spend on the Liverpool team and when he took over Man City, they had recently won the PL title.
When Klopp went to Liverpool they hadn’t won a PL title so had to start from a much poorer position.
Also, Guardiola has two top quality players for every position so his players are always fresh, which is a massive advantage in the PL.
But even in 07/08, the all conquering Man United side went to one of the shittest sides the PL has even seen in Derby. It took Ronaldo until the 77th minute to break the deadlock.
Just reiterates your point as to how shit the league is right now.
Those players mentioned were dog shit, when a squad needs an overhaul it needs an overhaul they were not only aging but clearly done at the top level. What have the names I mentioned gone on to do in the game when they left City ? How many would you have taken here?
So he should have tried to make it work with players who were no longer at the requisite level why? To appease you ? Lmao get real
If Bravo failed, Pep failed because he brought him in
Stones, Otamendi was a decent pairing despite Otamendi’s brainfarts
A midfield & attack of Fernandinho, Silva, De Bruyne, Sterling, Aguero, Sane was not dog shit.
So the only problem areas were a single center back & fullbacks
How does that need an overhaul? What stopped Pep to buy fullbacks that summer?
All that effort and not a single good argument as to how Fraudiola is a better manager than Klopp.
Pep won’t achieve half what Klopp did, if he arrived at Liverpool in 2017
I’m not saying players like Sane etc were dog shit but the players I mentioned definitely were and like I said were done at the top level when they left.
Those players needed to be replaced ergo they needed an overhaul, even physically some of them couldn’t play at the level a top coach would want.
With a midfield & attack including players like Fernandinho, Silva, De Bruyne, Sterling, Aguero, Sane, Gundogan, G.Jesus; did those players really needed to be replaced?
Yaya Toure didn’t need a replacement
Navas didn’t need a replacement
Fernando didn’t need a replacement
Nolito didn’t need a replacement
Apart from fullbacks, what was Pep actually replacing? He just needed to remove them from the squad
But Klopp was in a similar situation and needed to replace older players like Milner and Henderson but still won the title.
There is no doubt that in the transfer market Klopp is far superior, although he has to be because he doesn’t have the limitless spending that Guardiola has.
Why has Pep found it so difficult to win the Champions League? In the last 10 years, he’s made it to one final despite having some of the best players and squads in the world.
That’s my point, he didn’t replace him, he turned him and Milner into title winners and that’s the difference between Klopp and Guardiola.
Klopp gets the best out of affordable players but Guardiola has to buy two world class players for every position and his players get fewer injuries because they’re constantly rotated.
I said it a long time ago that when you micromanage players so much they lose their identity. When things go against them they aren’t sure how to react
You could see the confusion and fear in the players when their passing patterns stopped working and their movement stopped being effective.
As soon as Ancelotti made the changes the team couldn’t cope
