Let’s put it this way Da Babi rapper shot killed a black man nothing happened to him kept recording music. The minute he offended the LGBT people instant drop and condemnation. But yeah it doesn’t happen
But there are ways to quantify cancellation lol, what are you on about.
Kevin Spacey was due to be in a film when everything about him broke, he got removed from the film and replaced by a different actor. He got unceremoniously removed from House of Cards and they actually tried to create a final season that didn’t feature him, the main star, at all lol.
If a musician does some objectionable shit and their record label drops them and cancels their forthcoming album, that’s tangible evidence that they have faced damages, or been cancelled, if you will.
You could absolutely argue that Andrew Tate got cancelled because he got banned from nearly every social media platform at the same time. You see, I’ve pointed to something concrete that actually happened to back up the claim that he has been cancelled by big tech.
Contrast the above examples or hypotheticals to the claims in here that J K Rowling or Chris Pratt have been cancelled.
Try reading, it helps, because you don’t seem to actually be responding to the things I’m saying.
Im not saying nobody has ever been cancelled and never happens, I’m saying that you can’t claim someone has been cancelled and do so by only pointing to unsubstantiated, purely hypothetical opportunities they may have missed out on.
The examples you gave for quantifying cancellation are inaccurate and under-evaluated.
You have no insights to know about the projects Kevin Spacey missed out on.
Losing out on a movie & house of cards is the tip of the iceberg for Kevin Spacey.
If the allegations were not made, who knows how many movies & shows Spacey would have amassed?
He perhaps would have won an award and increased his financial package even further.
He easily had 10-15 years of his career in front of him in 2017, considering Meryl Streep is still active at 73.
How can someone quantify that?
Taking a footballing reference, how can you quantify the impact Shawcross had on Ramsey?
Is it just the football Ramsey missed for a year or was there some lingering issue that led to several muscle injuries later in Ramsey’s career?
How do you quantify something that’s unquantifiable? You can only speculate like in court when it comes to damages. Take Johnny Depp can you quantify how many opportunities he missed out on? No you can’t you can only speculate.
What are you on about?! I literally said Kevin Spacey has been cancelled and pointed to concrete evidence to back that up. The point wasnt that House of Cards and that single film is the full extent of the work that he lost out on as a result of his scandal, the point was that I provided actual evidence and concrete examples of his cancellation, unlike others in this thread who are relying on hypotheticals that can neither be proven or disproven.
When I say Kevin Spacey and Andrew Tate were cancelled I do so while pointing to specific consequences they faced, or specific punitive measures taken against them in order to back up my claim that they were cancelled. When people in this thread claim JK Rowling has been cancelled they have fuck all concrete examples like I’ve provided for Spacey and Tate, and are left laughably justifying their stance by saying “you don’t know what work she might have missed out on”.
An assertion that can be made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. However, nobody here could effectively argue with me that Tate and Spacey were cancelled because I’ve actually provided some solid evidence for those claims
We were talking about quantifying the impact of cancellations. I suggested it was impossible and you reverted with instances.
That’s not quantification.
Not every cancellation will be extreme enough for there to be direct evidence & a definitive article about it.
If you have a firm stance on evidence-based discussion, I hope you maintain consistency and continue to do so with football & other life matters.
Maybe we are talking at crossed purposes to an extent, because I’m talking about evidencing whether someone even has been cancelled in the first place, not quantifying the precise extent to which they have been.
I’m not asking anyone to put a figure on JK Rowling being cancelled, to precisely outline the extent of any potential financial damages, I’m asking people for evidence that she even has been in the first place. Once it’s satisfactorily demonstrated that someone has been cancelled you could then have a discussion about the precise extent to which they have been, but that second concersation is predicated on having first conversation.
Feel like I’m just going round in circles now so I’m gonna get my head down and focus on some work now lol.
It’s simply not a cancellation then.
Likewise mate. If you are here making claims and thinking that you aren’t required to provide a scrap of evidence to back them up, I expect you to be equally charitable to religious people making claims about God without providing any evidence to back up a single thing they’re saying.
Hey, don’t bring Atheism into it.
I wonder if those subject to these non-cancellations would agree with you.
Go ask them and report back.
Let’s be honest, even if I did you’d probably still claim it was all anecdotal, biased and not specific enough for you.
Only one way to find out.
Cancel culture is a terrible term anyway.

Cancel culture is a terrible term anyway.
Totally fucking nebulous.
No one actually gets cancelled. Even Milo and Alex Jones are still grifting for money.
Yeah. I’m yet to know anyone who’s actually been cancelled lol

No one actually gets cancelled. Even Milo and Alex Jones are still grifting for money.
People won’t stop living.