I don’t think so.
I was straight with what I wanted to convey.
This is where I started the conversation.
I am just saying that if depression is being discussed, what’s wrong bringing up what I did. It’s totally related. I don’t see what’s the big deal.
Must be a personal issue
Let’s keep in mind people who struggle with mental health as a general rule struggle with asking for help. Even friends and family with confidence. Any strategy that discourages that seems extremely destructive and wouldn’t do much good for anybody.
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The bit I think is disingenuous is you acting like you’re trying to instigate an important conversation thats beneficial to society. I think you’re just delivering another ignorant hot take because its what you do. Which is fine, I should just leave you to it and be more selective about when I engage.
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Sigh it’s always this narrow mindedness with you guys.
If you lot don’t like a poster or some narrative, you will find some weird angle(me being disingenuous) to dismiss it, if yiu can’t dismiss the actual content being discussed.
You raised an issue before I even made the post about ‘beneficial for society’.
You called my posts about misdiagnosis ‘all that bullshit’ so don’t give me the crap about you taking offence about my disingenuous-ness.
I derailed a top about depression with a topic about depression. 
Do you have anything to disagree about the misdiagnosis trend? If not, no need for you to detail this thread with weird fretting over minute things.
Sheesh
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Bloody hell @oompa is back 
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In my experience, doctors tend to skip a lot of NICE (National Institute for health and clinical excellence) guidelines and go straight for SSRIs.
The cynic in me says this makes their prescribing figures look good (a patient comes in, they left with a prescription). A lot of it boils down to patient autonomy as well. We almost feel compelled to want to leave a doctor’s appointment with a prescription. Combine that with the power of Google (“but, Doctor, I have ALL these symptoms”) and a prescriber is hard pushed to say no to a patient.
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The problem is SSRI’s aren’t a permanent fix to anything, except clinically depressed patients. For everyone else they are a short term solution, giving you time to sort out the underlying issue which is causing your depression.
But patients are kept on them way too long. I was on them for the best part of ten years, until I stopped taking them a couple of years ago.
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It’s a shame because SSRIs are the only pharmacological option for a newly diagnosed patient.
Tricyclic antidepressants are being used for neuropathic pain or incontinence instead. MAOIs are being phased out entirely due to their nasty side effect of hypertensive crises. That only really leaves SNRIs (Serotonin-Noradrenalin Reuptake Inhibitors) which, rather cruelly, can only be given once the patient has taken SSRIs and is deemed intolerant to them.
Sleep, diet and exercise. Getting those right will fix most people’s depression.
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You’d imagine Big Pharma lobby them intensely and supplement that with sponsored peer reviews
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Screw this. @oompa is back! Where have you been hiding?
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Exercise gives so much for feeling good .
Sadly I’m suffering from lack of it as injury has caused me to stop training and has given me ‘depression’ and to a certain extent a drink problem.
My mind wants to train , my body wants to train but then self doubt creeps in .
It hurts .
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I’m very sorry to hear that, Ash.
You strike me as a “strong” person, a courageous individual. I hope you have the intestinal fortitude to get through this.
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Thank you Hills
But sadly something has triggered it off and I’m unable to put a foot in a gym
It’s almost like the late great Eric Bristow and his Dart-itis
It got the diets , the training routines and exercises but the mind just stops it all .
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How bad is the injury, Ash?
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Elbows mainly and a shoulder muscle tear .
It’s like the hurdles…
The mind wants to jump the hurdles but the negative side of the mind puts a wall up behind the hurdles. The mind is a very powerful thing .
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I would work legs. As much as poss. Really get the adrenalin going and the testosterone flowing.
At this point, it’s all about using exercise to relax your mind, forget about things and not to cause further damage to existing injuries.
One exercise I’ve been trying is a 5 minute wall sit (obviously no chair there, but back is flush against the wall and the legs are bent in the sitting position)
Try it! You’ll soon hate me and feel a tad better. 
@Ashgooner1 this is what I mean. From min 32 onwards
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