Even if that were the case two wrongs don’t make a right so again I don’t agree
Additionally, we’re getting to a point where the actual quality on the pitch may become compromised also as a consequence
Calling players soft just doesn’t wash with me
Well as you haven’t told me why they aren’t soft as regards to previous generations of players I’ll have to assume that this generation of humankind has become softer.
Because the generations of footballers I’m talking about weren’t rich at all, they had the same house as any middle class person, drove a shitty company car and when they retired they didn’t have the comfort of a pile of money to sit on,the majority of them taking ordinary jobs.
Take it from me having riches makes you soft and having countless advertising contracts and being successful makes you even softer to the harsh realities of being a top athlete even when you have to play through the pain or if you think you’re knackered.
Today’s players are spoilt and entitled and even though I love watching football there’s not one player who I would give the time to.
Messi and C Ronaldo are regarded as the top of the top because they have been successful by playing every game they could without having to complain they are being overplayed.
We can disagree of course but I’m old enough to see how the game has changed enormously
This sounds a lot like boomers who used to get bent over in toxic work environments in their days, calling Millenials & Genz soft because we don’t take needless abuse at work and demand better work conditions & professional conduct.
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I don’t see what they earn has to do with it really
Players back then may have been playing too much and paid poorly and players of this generation may be paid much more and still play too much, their salary doesn’t make it right either way.
Also you state it like fact but do you evidence that they play equivalent minutes especially at the top end of the game?
The notion of players being spoilt and pampered is a separate topic altogether IMO
Being born in 1990, I wasnt around then, but instinctively I just felt you were wrong and that they were playing fewer games back in the day lol
Took Alan Hansen as my subject and started looking at some stats just to get a feel of what was going on at the time. In 84/85 he played 68 club games!
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My only evidence I can provide is that I watched football during the 80s, I don’t think anyone was keeping stats in those days, and I’m certainly not going to trawl the whole Internet to find any just to prove a point, I’m not desperate to prove a point lol, just giving an opinion from what I remember.
Arsenal played 70 games in 79/80
Btw trion I know it’s you replying to my messages because I haven’t blocked anyone else. So stop wasting your time you sad little troll with your bollocks
I don’t post messages hoping you didn’t know it was me.
Stop being precious
PS - I have not replied to any of your posts
Ah i just realised @Jesseviolin is seeing all the hidden post thinking I was responding to him all the time.
Haha, ah bless him.
3rd post in a row to make Jesse feel more special
You have to take intensity of the game into consideration.
For instance, back in those days, you can pass the ball back to the keeper’s hand & kill time.
I don’t think softness is the problem. But greed. Was there any relatively strong opposition to the new champions league throwing more mid week games your way. Or is that only reserved for domestic cups which are easy targets?
Players back in the day were drinking pints and partying the night before a match.
Now you have these genetically modified specimens with 2% body fat on a strict diet of water and vitamin pills.
It’s true the game was slower back then but the intensity and physicality of the game was higher.
Also, most squads back then were very small and there was only a couple of substitutions so most first team players were starting more than fifty games.
As for wages, when Barnes went to Liverpool, he was on 2k a week and was the highest paid player in the league, so there were no mercenary players either.
Anyway, I bring you all back to the analogy I made before
Just because yesteryear players were not raising concerns (or maybe they were & it didn’t get propogated), that doesn’t mean the concerns raised now are not valid.
It makes intuitive sense that professional footballers at the highest level are playing too many games. We have no idea how much damage is happening to players because of it.
You will either shorten someone’s career or reduce the quality on pitch or encourage players to abuse substances to prolong their presence on pitch.
None of it is worth considering the additional games are for Nations League, playing international and club friendlies, playing young boys in CL and a league cup - a tournament everyone disrespects.
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I dunno where tiredness comes into this cause Ode had a good long break in the summer. So he shouldn’t be tired whatsoever. And more rest is not always good. He could come back extremely rusty and need a few weeks to find his feet. Hell, he looked rusty this season before the injury.
Weeks, not months.
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Surely still not coming back before December or so?
I’ve already mentally prepared myself for January.
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