Just let him go for free or even tear up his contract. No point holding out for someone to pay for this clown.
Nahh, he should definitely be buying out his contract or another club should be anyway.
We canât set this standard to others for this sort of thing regardless of who is right and who is wrong.
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He should be sold, but for a token fee like ÂŁ500k or something. Canât be letting players just decide they donât have a contract here anymore.
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I genuinely think he should be sold for around âŹ10m. Heâs the captain of a big football club, an experienced French international with bags of PL and CL experience.
I mean Roma are refusing to part with Dzeko (who is the same age) for less than âŹ20m and he comes with significantly higher wage demands than Koscielny too. Even Parma are holding out for âŹ15m for Gervinho whoâs 32 himself and wants higher wages than Kos does.
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lol selling him doesnât set an example. Maybe if he hadnât bailed on the team trip as the club captain, I would understand selling him. But this is a pretty serious show of disloyalty to the club and the fans as a result.
My issue is that letting this drag on hangs a huge cloud over the club. if he makes 100K/week, then we save 5m over the season anyway. Hanging out for a measly fee from some French club doesnât show we are tough.
Get rid and show that this behaviour is not acceptable for an Arsenal captain.
Setting the standard will be if you behave like a child and sulk off a team trip when you are the main leader, then we will get rid of you and maintain our values as a club.
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Itâs not a question of market value. I think heâs worth a fee, but not in this instance.
If he wants to leave - he can leave providing a club is willing to pay what Arsenal value him at.
I donât support letting him leave for free or a nominal fee. Even if we got âŹ8-10m for him thatâs an invaluable sum of money given the alleged constraints weâre working under
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Setting the standard that if you behave like a child in order to get your way we will let you get your way?
Boy, thatâll sure learn all those naughty players.
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I can understand the logic in holding out for a fee, but in the context of where we are at and our already soft reputation, I think we need to be tough and not let player power dictate, especially when Koscielny is 33 and all.
Koscielny is the captain but honestly its out of necessity. If our shit captain doesnât want to take any responsibility for being shit then fuck him.
My view is that getting rid of him is not giving him his way, itâs the club saying that they wonât tolerate players behaving like this.
Like I said, this whole scenario is now just a cloud hanging over the clubâs head and it certainly doesnât make us an attractive place for potential transfers in a competitive market that we donât compete in already.
You could strip him of his roles and not play him but it just drags the whole thing on.
And yet we will pay him at least 5m anyway over the season anyway, so if he goes now for free then we will definitely save 5m. Whereas we save less each week he remains and thereâs no guarantee we get that sort of fee anyway. Clubs know we are weak and they know he wants out. So the financial argument is really not a valid one.
He doesnât get paid ÂŁ100k a week though. One of the gripes he has is that his salary is reduced due to the payments made up front in the past.
Okay, letâs say itâs 1/3 of that. Even so itâs an automatic saving of 1.5m. A fee of 8-10 isnt guaranteed and havenât we been talking about how fees arenât up front anyway, so weâd only be looking at a couple million difference at the worst if he was bought at a high fee.
If we sell him for 10m tomorrow or even before the end of the window, Iâm happy, but the fact that we are disciplining him says we are going to let this drag on and I honestly think a black cloud like this could cost us in the market and ultimately in the table later on.
No one will pay 10m for Koscielny, especially with his injury concerns
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How does that make sense? Letting him go for free so he can get the bumper signing on fee and wages he wanted all along while we make nothing and lose probably still our best defender.
We keep him and make him honour his contract or get a decent fee.
Weird, itâs almost like I made it clear in the first line: âMy issue is that letting this drag on hangs a huge cloud over the club.â
I donât disagree with getting a fee generally, but it needs to be done quickly for the above reasons.
I mean Giroud went for ÂŁ20m when slightly younger. So yes we should get ÂŁ7-10m
Itâs more his problem that our problem. We can make him train with kids. Allowing a player to bully his way out of a contract canât be accepted by the club
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Exactly, from Arsenalâs point of view we have nothing to lose as the worst has already happened.
Koscileny has no threats left as heâs already refused to train (and presumably play).
No point in letting him go for free, we either keep hold of him as backup (and give him massive fines when he refuses to play), get a decent fee on selling him, or have him buy out his contract.
All of those options are superior to letting him leave for nothing and setting an example to Auba/Laca/Torreira etc that if they get fed up here they can just throw a tantrum and weâll let them go cheaply.
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Le professeur has spoken. Stay tuned.