Ridiculous that Reform are nakedly islamophobic and then are like “It’s not fair! All the Muslims voted against us!”
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A vote for Green is a vote for sticking it to the nutters on the right, and the awful incumbents.
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In fairness I’d be equally frustrated if Labour were putting out campaign videos in Urdu as well, maybe the greens was just a glaring example due to their arrival as a new political force.
All of Reform’s videos were full of hatred and lies, I have a bigger problem with that than Labour putting out campaign videos in different languages. Ultimately fascism is a greater threat to the UK than some community specific campaign videos.
But fuck Labour anyway.
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What’s wrong with campaigning in Urdu?
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The Greens obviously utilised the demographics to their advantage. It’s not to my taste but it’s not against any rules (that I’m aware of. It’s not like other parties don’t do this anyway). Again these areas were voting Labour but it’s problematic if another party takes advantage of it. Loads of codswallop.
Single issue voting is legitimate. Gaza is a strong issue for these voters and no one in the establishment offered anything close to satisfactory for them. In basketball terms this is what they call a wide open lay up.
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I don’t think the Greens are a single issue party these days. In each election there will obviously be local issues at play but the general message is a centrist-left one. What everyone thought they were voting for with Labour in 2024.
It seems the country is getting a little sick of white Eton-educated men spreading hate in an attempt to divide and rule. All while they and their besties profit massively out the taxes we pay.
Labour offered change but were actually Tories in all but name. Reform tried to brain-wash us into blaming everything bad in the UK on minorities and the vulnerable. Conservaties are history.
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For the Greens themselves this seems like the biggest moment they’ve ever had. Certainly in my lifetime. There’s a real possibility of them gaining actual relevance if they can handle it correctly.
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Labour are set for even more embarrassment in May. Yes its two different countries but if the results in Scotland and Wales are as bad as expected will he survive?
Only an issue when it’s a “Muslim” language
Not even having a go at you, just using your post to make a more general point, cos nobody highlighted that as an issue when it happened, nobody started ruminating about whether Jewish people were assimilated.
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Hopefully not.
I don’t think you can underestimate the irrelevance of Wales and Scotland to English voters. If that’s where the disaster was, I think he’d survive.
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I’m rather hoping that Starmer woke up this morning and realised his 4 year long attempt to appeal to hardcore Reform and Tory voters has blown-up in his face.
I thought that by the time my generation were ruling the country, we’d have some decent centrist politicians. In Starmer I see a kid who was always told he was right, a driven student who quickly embraced privilege and elitism and a politician who can’t do politics.
I meant Muslims on the average when it comes to Gaza. Well and some leftists as well.
This isn’t representative of overall election performance I don’t think. These by-elections are a bit weird in which you can dedicate effort towards it compared to an election where resources (and importantly time) are split. It is a snapshot that Labour being fucked is increasingly becoming reality. Another safe seat gone.
From my personal pov Greens aren’t my type of party but I’m glad Labour lost. Gorton & Denton was as with many other places an area with a lot of deprivation and didn’t see much in return for loyally voting Labour.
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Yeah there’s plenty of evidence of Tories in London doing similar in London towards Indian communities.
People need to set out what it mean when they talk about integration. What determine if an ethnic enclave is good or bad? Clearly ethnic enclave in itself isn’t a bad thing, no one sees the Hasidic Jews of Stamford Hill or the Indians of Harrow as examples of failed integration just because they’re an ethnic enclave.
Why do Pakistani muslims in Lancashire get a bad rep?
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You’re gonna be disappointed. Vague terms like ‘British values’ back on the menu.
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Genuinely curious as to why - so don’t take this is me gearing up for a debate lol.
I would assume that no party in England is your “type of party”, but would be curious to know if that is the case, and if so, what your ideal “type of party” would look like/stand for.
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Yeah easy to ignore. Probably makes the Scottish labour leader have to go instead
Me too, nothing the Greens stand for feels controversial to me but I’m fascinated by other’s opinions on them. I don’t seek a debate, I just want to understand.
I left Labour due to their pathetic Brexit campaign and found a natural home in the Green Party because, despite attempts by the press and politicians to distract us with domestic issues, Climate Change is the biggest threat to the well-being of humankind and not just in 100 years, 2026 is already 1oC warmer than our mildest year on record, all the way back in…er…2025.
That I broadly agree with them on other issues is a bit of a bonus.