Reform’s actual position isn’t relevant. My point is if exactly the same policy was proposed by them rather than Labour you wouldn’t like the idea.
And how unsurprising it is, if you want to talk about “as usual” positions, that your position is “I wasn’t sure about it, but I thought about and it turns out my position is whatever Labour tells me it is.”
And what a basic Labour look it is to be saying “well you must think things being rubbish is ok if you don’t agree with us.”
If you took a second to imagine what it must be like to support Labour in 2025, the immense social stigma attached to taking that position publicly, you wouldn’t ask that question.
I wouldn’t say aggy, but can be a bit defensive as I am simply expressing a view that differs to everyone else. Also, just for clarity, my comment wasn’t directed at Shamrockgooner, but at Leper because he disagrees with everything but never puts forward a solution.
A good idea is a good idea regardless of who said it. I am pragmatic, and I think that’s one of the reasons you get irritated by my posts because you are much more principled in your position on issues, which for the avoidance of doubt, I completely respect. I am happy to agree with a policy from any political party if I think it is the right thing to do.
The difference between us is that unlike you, I wouldn’t adopt a position to not vote for a party because of one policy that I disagreed with, notwithstanding if they done lots of other positive things.
Where I struggle with you, is that you disagree with everything but offer no solution. In respect of this specific issue above, I would much sooner the Government invest more money into the justice system to make it work, but that’s because I believe in public services, and as such think everyone needs to pay more in tax to fund them so they work as they should. However, that isn’t the reality, and therefore I am happy to accept an alternative if this means victims of crime have to wait less time to get justice.
The policy in question is to target vulnerable people, like my daughter and remove vital support from them, and call it a “tough decision.”
The difference between us in this case is you treat voting like it’s some kind of interesting intellectual exercise. I vote, almost exclusively, on the issue that matters most to me. Especially given it’s very unlikely that my daughter herself is going to be able to vote, and that’s why governments target her and people like her.
As for thinking Labour have done positive things elsewhere, the things that might make a difference to me or impress me, they’ve also done terribly with. Notably failing to take any kind of lead in opposing Israel’s genocide.
You want to latch on to this idea that I don’t have any solutions - firstly, as @Calum said, it’s not the job of voters to come up with the solutions. But additionally, you don’t see me do it because the system we live under is set up to prevent the things that are solutions for me.
The solution for me is breaking the hegemony of the two main parties because both of the main parties are enemies of vulnerable people, and even if Labour or the Tories made moves in directions I wanted I wouldn’t trust them to deliver.
For example, I want much stronger public services and a country that can defend itself from Russia. The only way that happens is through higher tax. But I won’t support Labour or Tory governments doing that because although they might raise the taxes, I don’t trust them to deliver the outcome.
There’s enough real crime keeping the police occupied so community police or an equivalent should be used when dealing with a verbal or online offence.
Predictably void of testicles from the emptiest suit in Downing Street.
I thought about putting this in General News with the rest of the Venezuela story, but I thought it’s more appropriate on the sidelines where Starmer and his government belongs.
Pretty standard response across the western leaders. I don’t think its a stretch to guess what Starmer really thinks about Trump and his actions toward Venezuela but he obfuscates. Is potential backlash from Trump that scary to European leaders?
European nations need to grow some balls. I think its too late though
They’ve already discovered it won’t work basically. But the project is already in train so keep it going and waste a shit load of money on something no one will ever fucking use.
These advisors that run parties in the background need to be brought to the light so people can see them for the snivelling neeks they are and laugh them out the room.
