Need old fucks to die faster more than birth rate to go up.
I’ll happily tap out at 80, dragging it on past then is just a drain on society outside your immediate family.
I’m honestly fine with tapping out the moment I no longer feel like I’m strong enough to look after myself independently.
The moment I need assistance I’m happy to go lol
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Yep, I don’t see how it’s nice for you or for your family to then have to take care of you, spend money to do so, then see you in a shit state and feel sad for longer.
Of course it’s a sad thing to think about but if it was an actual option it’d be the most sensible imo.
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I completely believe in looking after my elderly family I just don’t want to be the elderly family member people are looking after personally lol
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If people are having fewer children and there are too many older people, just put the retirement age up.
Each to their own, I’m not tapping out. Because I’m stubborn as hell 
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Just because your boy eduardo will be there first and you know he’s waiting for you!
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A fate worst than hell.
I need to live forever.
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Not a very big leap for a society from thinking about elderly disabled people like that to thinking about young disabled people in the same way.
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I was meaning people who genuinely dont want them. This could also be a reason for declining birth rate.
My partner and I are both experienced teachers with the wage that goes with that. We don’t want children. And money is the key reason.
If a society wants more kids then it has to deliver an economy better than one in which two people on a solidly middle class income don’t see bringing up a child as viable.
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That’s not everyone
Personally it is a very big leap, my original point was about being happy to go myself at 80 regardless of condition. The premise being that it’s long enough in my view. If I am also struggling to function having managed a long life then even more reason.
Argue the same about a 30 year old, a 20 year old, a 10 year old? Completely incomparable in my book.
All pointless anyway because there’s no magic button or tag team partner to say ‘right I’m out and you’re in brother!’ But it’s not sustainable for everyone to keep living longer and in parallel increase the birth rate for many reasons. Understand a low birth rate brings its own challenges when the former is also happening.
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I completely get that in your book that they’re separate considerations.
As I said - if a society thinks in those terms though, I don’t think it takes much for those so inclined to use that to shift the discussion on to labelling others as burdens.
Also starting to struggle with this, we had discussed for years that we wanted to have 3 if possible.
Now the idea of even being able to afford 1 seems a huge stretch in the current climate. Cost of living is definitely the biggest factor more than choice.
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I don’t think it’s a big leap tbh. Given the attitude already exists.
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Maybe it’s just me but one seems remotely fair and logical while the other is Nazi Germany.
But I understand it can be possible for a minority to take advantage and extend the view that way. Can’t see it being a popular opinion, it’s heartless enough when it’s 80+ 
It doesn’t have to be popular. In Nazi Germany all it really needed was for people to silently look the other way until brave people made it impossible to do so.
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Where did I say it was?
Ah hem.
You replied to Jakey who you quoted:
Then you said:
I replied, then you said:
So I follow up with:
Now you’re agreeing with me, but your original reply to Jakey now makes no sense.