Labour and Your Party

What’s the upside to switching to an EV if you’re subjected to that kind of tax though?

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There simply isn’t one. And how the fuck are they gonna even enforce it. Would be 5p/10p/15p before you know it…

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Government coffers are running dry and they are running around like headless chickens to see where they can get funds.

Labour’s answer to everything is more tax - which is has never worked at any time in history and will fail again now.

Tax on a “middle class” person is outragrously poor value. A person who “earns £75k a year) - Rounding figures
Cost to company = £84,093 (so government has taken £9,100 in NI)
Income tax = £17,400
Employee NI = £3,500
So before anything, government have taken £30k

Then more taxes kick in: VAT, Road Tax, “Sin taxes”, sugar tax, council tax (although not to central gov).

For the £35-45k that the Government has received, what does that individual get in return? Not a hell of a lot.

Rumour is that people have to anticipate their annual mileage in advance and pay before they drive - end of the year if you overpay, it will go towards the following year - if short, likely have to pay plys a penalty :sweat_smile: . I haven’t given it too much thought, but they will likely make people MOT from new and collect mileage data from there.

I have an EV on order for the new year - only reason I have done that is because of benefit in kind TAX, which is lower for the time being and made extortionate on ice vehicles.

The aim is to likely push more people to public transport (similar to congestion and emissions tax) because that is in trouble too.

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Lower emissions and reduction of your individual corbonfoot print? This allows us to get to net zero quicker. Those are good thing right?

I have no idea of how things will be enforced in older cars but with new cars being built with speed limiters there’s rumours again that manufacturers will have to install and black box style device.

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Fml that would be outrageous.

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You expect this sort of stupidity from the Tories but not the Labour Culture Secretary.

Not buying that it was an accident at all.

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There is no reason to vote these in over reform..

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Wellington is two towns over from me and it seems they have some sense, I think my town will unfortunately fall to reform as there seems a disappointing amount of flag shagging going on the last few weeks. It’s currently Lib Dem, but I’ve not been impressed with them even if he is a genuinely nice chap (Bill Revans). I can see any voting over the next few years for me now being purely tactical just so those rednecks don’t get in.

The Reform demographic makes absolute sense….. The same bracket of people edged us into Brexit…….. Look how that’s going.

Loving the work of this Labour government so far. Incoming tax rises they promised they wouldn’t implement, slow economic growth, growing unemployment

What a government

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I can’t wait for the shocked reactions when they lose the next election to the far right.

In all other respects that’s going to be a very dark day, but at least we get the pleasure of seeing this government getting handed the defeat it richly deserves.

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I mean in the meantime we can at least look forward to all the tough but fair decisions they need to make to take money away from our poor and vulnerable whilst the record levels of wealth transfer to our richest continues.

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The two child benefit cap is being lifted is pretty positive step if you’re left side of spectrum

If I was feeling uncharitable, which I am, I’d suggest that this might be because Nige said it first.

If you think the country’s birth rates are an issue, which you probably should regardless of your personal ideology, this should probably be regarded as a good thing, because the last thing we need to do is discourage people from having children. The problem is that the changing your birth rate and seeing the associated benefits is a long term matter, and it’s something that will cost us money in the short term.

Couple that with a fairly widespread distaste in this country for recipients of welfare and the idea of lifting the two child benefit cap isn’t a popular one in the country (or at least it wasn’t, I havent seen the most recent polling).

One thing I will credit Farage for is saying he’d lift it when it wasn’t a popular position in any polling. I suppose that is in part due to him knowing he has the political capital to do this at the moment, but I like seeing politicians come out and acknowledge that a position isn’t necessarily popular with a majority of people, but explaining why they think it is necessary and trying to convince people to support it. I want to see more of that from politicians and less slavish devotion to polling and focus groups.

But our birth rates have got to be addressed as a matter of priority by any government, and it needs something much bigger than the lifting of the two child benefit cap.

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Its just interesting the extent that backbenchers are running the show now and they’re doing a poor job of it.

What if people just dont want children as much as previous generations?

I don’t find that argument persuasive as decisions are influenced by circumstances. Especially in this country.

It is very rare for a parent to regret having a kid.

(They also wouldn’t be affected by any attempts to address it).

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