Kai Havertz (29)

Willian vibes.

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A cold chill just ran up my spine.

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I assumed that was where Arteta would play when he signed. A lot of the good Leverkusen clips is him dribbling/passing infield from the right side.

This reminds me of what Wenger said about Pires. The effect playing on the left side had on his game vs playing on the right.

“What’s important is finding a position that suits perfectly a player’s qualities, a position where he can express his technical qualities and a position where you do not expose his flaws,” said Wenger.

"The little details are very, very important, like preferential vision. Some players see more on the right and some see more on the left. If you see a player who passes to the right all the time because of that, then you put them on the left.

“Robert Pires is a good example. He has unbelievable preferential vision, so on the right he is a normal player but on the left he became a world-class player. On the left wing he saw everything, but on the right wing he saw nothing.”

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Another reminder to Arsenal to stop buying Chelsea rejects. Jorginho will be the only player we’ve bought that works out. The rest have all failed miserably.

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It’s rather a damning list now.

Cech
Gallas
Luiz
Willian
Lassana Diarra

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So much trash there, whilst they’ve had players like Cole, Giroud, Fabregas (guess this one doesn’t count as much) all at their prime.

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Our dealings with Chelsea have been embarrassing but we also helped Ferguson win the title when we sold them RVP, while they offloaded dross players on us, like Sylvestre, Welbeck and Mkhitayran.

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Its been 4 games

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As well as the three seasons at Chelsea.

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How can we include his time at Chelsea in his development time required at Arsenal?

New manager
New players to play with
New training ground
New playing styles
New training styles
New coaches
New processes

4 games

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What had he done in his three seasons at Chelsea for us to pay 60m for him?
As I’ve said before, why didn’t we go for Maddison, who was way cheaper and a better player.

Is it our job to look at his time at Chelsea and decided whether or not we should have bought him?

I dont think it is

Hes here now, hes a new player and should be afforded the same time others are given to settle and get used to our club and our team.

I think he is a very talented footballer, that doesnt just disappear overnight

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We do it for every other player we buy, so why not him?
We have every right to come to a decision about a player who had three average seasons at Chelsea.

I agree, but he’s had four games against mediocre opposition and clearly hasn’t settled into the team yet so should start on the bench for the next game.

A title challenging side shouldn’t have passengers, or players not performing at the highest level, especially as we’ve got other players in the squad who could do a better job.

But my main point with Havertz is, why pay so much for a player no other club wanted, when there were cheaper and better alternatives like Maddison?

The only opinion that matters mate is that of Mikel, and he bought him, and he likes him, so no disrespect but what you think means absolutely nothing at the end of the day.

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Let’s close the forum down then, I mean it goes without saying that no voice here bears any consequence for the squad lol

Don’t get when people resort to saying things like that

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Damn didn’t know that. Not sure what I’ve been doing these past 15 years.

Clearly not what im saying is it

People will obviously have opinions, but no point trying to second guess why our manager wanted to buy him.
Hes here now, despite what he did last season or the season before.

Questioning why we bought him instead of someone else isnt going to change anyones opinions.

And he’s getting close to his sell-by date.

Wtf is it with Arsenal buying Chelsea leftovers?

Cech
Luiz
Willian
Jorginho
Havetz

All in the last 8 or so years.

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Jorginho has been the best of the lot imo

havertz will do better, i feel, he has all the talent.

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And so it begins :grin::grin:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/16bhvjm/a_series_of_havertz_runs_and_sequences_in_the/