The low confidence angle just doesn’t wash for me
You can say he may improve with time (possible I suppose) but low on confidence just doesn’t make much sense with the year he’s been having tbh
If he’s low on confidence he doesn’t score those goals against Chelsea in the first place
Havertz generally is languid AF that’s who he is
For sure. That kind of speed is pretty terrifying.
I agree and I think his finishing against Chelsea hinted of that confidence coming back, I was at a point where I’d presume he’d fluff it and was positively surprised at how neat they were/it was.
Maybe being at a shit Chelsea and coming here to a pretty detailed system with a clear Basque manager scrambled his eggs a bit and the yolk is starting to coagulate now 
@Darkseid this is the level of confidence I’m referring too before Chelsea ruined him. Look how he’s levels above the others on the pitch. The punch in his passes and connection of his strikes.
I understand as players grow they adopt different playstyles and perhaps mellow out, but if we can extract this beast in him, he could be phenomenol.
Ah ok, to me he just isn’t that player anymore
For whatever reason he has changed and its far from a given that he goes back to that actually would say its unlikely, Ozil at Werder Bremen was different player compared to how he was at Real and here for example.
Same goes for Ferran Torres when he was at Valencia compared to how it was at City and now Barcelona
That’s why he was the wonderboy.
Maybe he will not get back his dribbling skills because of his growth spurt, but the passing techinque and vision will not change because now he is taller.
I think what @Midfield_Maestro point is, the way he struck the ball was full of confidence, conviction. Not like right now he is undecisive occasionally. When you are confident, you don’t need to think (too much) but just execute.
I don’t know, wait and see next season and time will tell.
As of now, I am really happy that Ode starts passing the ball to him a lot more.
Unlike when he first joined, it was so obvious that his teammates intentionally not passing to him, for whatever reason.
Trust issue? Or set up like that to use him as decoy?
I am happy to see his involvement right now.
They don’t have to be gone because he’s taller it just may not be something he excels at anymore, one of the main reasons why I don’t like him at #8
He’s clearly not the same player apart from dribbling, it’s not necessarily something that will just poof appear like it never left
His dribbling skills have gone down massively from that video.
Compilations are so pointless. If we took a 5 second snapshots of everything good thing Havertz did at Chelsea and Arsenal he’d also look incredible.
It’s not that his dribbling skills have gone down, it’s more that the quality of defending he has to face, since he moved to the PL, has gone up.
Some of the defending in that video was laughable and Havertz took full advantage of it.
@oompa this thread is improving. 6/10. Would read.
2 cents: honestly no matter what that comp or people say, his forte at Leverkusen wasn’t close control dribbling in tight spaces, he was much better at dribbling at speed in large spaces, like counter attacks, the space you get a lot more in the Bundesliga.
What he had that is valuable anywhere imo is his vision, mid-long range passing, his anticipation, he reads the game very well and had a tendency to pop up in the right place at the right time, hence the comparisons to T. Müller, playing as a 10 or from the right side.
I think now that he has put on a little more weight, he plays as a 9 and in a league where you have much less time and space, being “good in tight spaces” is a much taller order, reserved for the likes of Ödegård. So we want better hold-up play, quicker 1-2 passing, snappier finishing etc. from him. Naturally. But that vid shows not just a different time, but a different role in a different league.
What a lovely post
If Kai scores the last goal which cements us the title this season would he be a legend in ya’ll’s eyes?
For me, he would be. First title in 20 years remember.
Was looking at his G/As since starting as a striker this season; his numbers put him really high tbh — even if we buy a striker, I can’t really see them doing better than this.
Never in a million years did I think he’d achieve anything remotely like his Leverkusen days… but here we are.
I can see him getting a goal and assist tomorrow vs. Spurs for sure.
No because single actions simply dont make anyone a legend.
He wins us a Champions League - instant legend.
If his contributions win us an EPL or a UCL, he’s a legend imho.
Chelsea fans hate to admit it, but he’s a legend there too. Won them the UCL.
thanks man!
Idk Theo taunting Spurs while being stretchered off made him a legend to me.
