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I like the passion…

Yes I agree. Monuments with historical value to our society and our collective cultural heritage should be robustly protected and those who break the law to cause criminal damage should face severe consequences.

I don’t why eco terrorist get a pass, if it was a rightwing group doing what they do based on their flawed zero sum ideology they’d be treated as a criminal enterprise at the very least

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I disagree. We are talking about a unique heritage site so any fine or punishment should be as severe as possible. Their actions were as a minimum reckless and could easily be argued to be intentional. They can’t be allowed to be let off with a slap on the wrist.

Agree with you on climate 100%, but their destructive actions and stunts are not helping.

Ok, time to explain why you think they’re terrorists lol

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What do you think is an appropriate punishment? You dodged the question.

I know. Rule one of protesting in the UK; get the public on your side.

Led by Donkeys for example, always mix their serious stuff up with some funny stunts.

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Would be pretty weird to argue they were anything but intentional to be honest. But seriously, if someone pisses on Stonehenge, jail time?

Acts of violence and criminal damage to achieve political aims is terrorism.

The term “eco terrorist” isn’t new at all. It the proper way to describe XR and JSO

I think youve added criminal damage to that definition because you want to call this lot terrorists tbh.

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Thanks :pray: Without revealing what I do, heritage is something that’s really important and I am really passionate about protecting it for future generations. That’s what has made me so angry watching this. They have absolutely no right to do what they done. Same as those responsible for the cutting down the Sycamore Gap tree. They have no respect, consideration or regard and they need to be held responsible.

The people tearing up the Brazilian rainforest for example are eco terrorists, not JSO.

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You can take it out, criminal damage is a by product of violence

That’s something else, completely different. Not related

eco terrorist has been defined since the 60s as relating to extreme environmentalism. To act otherwise is silly

They haven’t done anything violent.

A quick Google tells me i am mixing up terms. My bad.

There are some (many) news stories I’m just unable to give a fuck about.

Well strictly speaking that’s for the Courts to decide, but putting this into context, in cases where someone has cut down a protected tree without consent, they have been fined tens of thousands of pounds…in terms of heritage and ‘protection’, Stonehenge is pretty much at the top of the list.

Apologies, these are actual terms used in a legal sense for prosecution cases. Imprisonment is a potential outcome here.

Not a justifiable one imo.

A fine. Or maybe some community service cleaning cornflour off monuments, that sort of thing.

So the punishment you would suggest is…

How much of a fine, how much of a prison sentence?

I’m not going to get into a semantics debate about the definition of violence. You can google the definition

Violence is the unlawful use of force against persons or property which have clearly engaged in.

If they want to inconvenience people on the road I don’t care about that. Criminal damage is a different matter

I don’t necessarily disagree but you will begin to see real ecoterrorism soon.

Things are only getting worse and people aren’t listening

About JSO, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are being funded by big oil. How does targeting Stonehenge do anything?

It’s not appropriate and if you care about the environment you wouldn’t deface that.