Don’t now act like this is just an “innocent until proven guilty” thing for you, because it isn’t when you said the below
You said that, and this is what I’m asking you about.
Out of interest, have you read the story or watched the show?
Or just his video?
Yeah that’s what I think. Because of his YouTube channel and him calling out the MSM pushing certain narratives. He has millions of followers there.
You think it’s because he goes hunting? That’s the only explanation I have for that misconception.
I was hoping you’d engage with my response to that and justify your position, but no worries.
I read a few articles on it.
He was a promiscuous guy. For sure. He doesn’t hide that. But raping someone? Emotionally abusing someone? These are serious allegations.
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I’m not worried at all
Nah mate. It’s because he doesn’t follow the woke bullshit.
But he isn’t right wing at all. He has fights all the time with right wing people like Candace Owens and flat earthers and all such people.
He is like Bill Maher. A liberal of the 90s mold.
Not this nonsensical 2020s version.
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Me saying “no worries” does not imply that I think you are.
Why do you thiink this is orchestrated, rather than a simple case of media organisations all reporting on a big story to get their share of clicks because that’s what their entire business model is predicated on?
Why do you think The Times and Channel 4 would make up very serious lies about him when he has shown himself to be litigious about comparatively trifling matters like whether he cheated on his girlfriend or not?
I don’t get why your instinct is to leap to conspiracy.
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About time all sides busted out their peer reviewed evidence in triplicate of really specific points in this argument that nobody could possibly possess. Otherwise I’ll have to assume everyone involved is full of shit.
Thats a no then.
I read about half of the story, it seemed well researched and reported to me. I haven’t seen the show and i did watch his video which is just a blanket denial of everything.
I dont feel any need to state which side i suppprt though or engage in conspiracy theories.
Whether these things are ultimately proven true or not the very very likely explanation is this story came to the attention of those reporting it and they spent a very long time putting together. The idea they’ve done it to take him down when it’s likely increased his support just doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
Rogan is an agreeable empty vessel that believes the last thing he heard. It makes him a good podcaster but a terrible influence on numskulls that listen to his show religiously.
He’s also well aware of what content drives engagement for his show and plays to that audience. It’s also the reason Spotify paid him half a billion.
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Because I have seen the media orchestrate narratives and push them out simultaneously. Literally across the board they all came out with certain stories. The Depp one after he won is one of them as I already mentioned twice before.
Look I don’t say I am right. Maybe Brand did what they say he did. I just believe him for now, because I know the media is very capable of pushing out narratives to satisfy agendas. Rectifying them once they turn out to be false, is of no importance or a small footnote hardly seen by anyone.
I don’t think he is an agreeable empty vessel. As I said, he routinely goes against actually right wing types like Candace. Where he asks for arguments for her denying climate change for instance.
A lot of people on the left don’t like him, because he is critical of woke ideas etc.
He simply is a middle of the road Liberal. Atheist. Likes to smoke weed.
A bit like me. Although I’m a socialist.
I find your approach to be fair and balanced. I still distrust the MSM for obvious reasons.
Start by reading the actual substantive report that kicked it all off before leaping to calling this orchestrated. You might as well at least begin from an informed position
I will give this a read.
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I’m honestly not decided, because how could I be? But there are certain aspects that really make it look like he has a case to answer. The bit with the text message exchange between him and the American woman in particular.
I have no problem with a distrust of the media just like i assume you would equally have no problem with someone holding a distrust of the content the likes of Brand is putting out there into the world.
Each have their agendas.
But that does not automatically make anything/everything either side say an outright lie and the opposing view the unbiased truth.
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Absolutely. I have a healthy distrust of mainstream media, but it needs to be applied selectively, rather than just taking the side of anyone who opposes the MSM. Cos plenty of people outside of the MSM have their own agenda thay they will push regardles of the reality, just like the MSM does at times. To automatically take either side at their word uncritically makes no sense.
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