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Naftali Bennet also sounds like a real piece of shit.

But I guess at least he may not be corrupt, and use massacres to distract from his corruption.

At least at first.

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Isreal is never going for a two-state solution / not having full control over Palestinian area’s (push them out/eliminate them). The West is going to do nothing to stop it.

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Oh yeah, he’s not good either.

My hope is that Yair Lapid’s presence is helpful and most importantly that the ultra Orthodox party is shut out from government.

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The thing is though the whole kneeling thing doesn’t really translate to Britain. In Britain we don’t have 1% of the police killings America does. So I presume he’s kneeling for victims of police violence in America? Why? Why not Palestinians in Gaza? Or the Yemeni genocide at the hands of Saudi? At this stage it’s virtue signaling and irrelevant to British society.

On the other hand in America, it makes some sense in protesting the American police system, but in Europe it’s mental masturbation.

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Correct analysis. At this point, the players and FA don’t want to be seen as backing down to “racists” who boo.

Woke lefties on Twitter don’t seem to get it, why would they? Their primary demo isn’t match going football supporters.

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No it’s right wing low society hooligans.

Taking a knee is evidently intended as a symbolic gesture against racial discrimination generally, rather than being solely about the issues inherent to the US justice system. Those issues were evidently the trigger, but that doesn’t mean the gesture and movement doesn’t have further significance to people outside of the US. Which seems fair enough to me, really.

Also, it is intended as a symbolic gesture, and not a concrete action, so to perjoratovely call it virtue signalling just strikes me as an empty criticism/statement. Its a symbolic gesture, so by its very nature its about signalling a set of values or specific position on a societal issue.

Calling things virtue signalling is fairly tiresome anyway. Wearing a poppy and participating in a minutes silence is a perfect example of virtue signalling, yet people who dismiss anything left wing as “virtue signalling” will happily don their poppies and act as if what they’re doing is entirely different. In most instances of its use, the phrase “virtue signalling” has little more value than indicating that you don’t like someone with different political perspectives protesting or campaigning about things you don’t agree with.

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Yeah I mean personally I think it’s pointless and a show, but if it means something to my black colleagues, I wouldn’t shit on it.

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I like it and think it should’ve remained a thing, showing solidarity is important I think the close ties with the BLM organisation hurts it massively.

Oh a fan was being racist at this stadium game? Fuck you all take the knee for the first 5 minutes, pay to watch football don’t hide the racist fans near you.

Virtue signalling is the Gay pride company logos, or the black symbols from companies. Fuck that, I also don’t think poppies are really virtue signalling, I do my minutes silence and buy a poppy to remember family members and help people with mental health, I’m not doing it to show I’m morally correct.

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You wear a symbol on your chest to demonstrate support for the cause, you are signalling your position by doing so. You could just put money in the pot, not wear the poppy, and think about family members you’ve lost privately. But you choose to wear the poppy, and doing so is a statement.

I don’t say any of this to be at all critical of you, or of people who wear a poppy, not even slightly, so I hope it doesn’t come across like that at all. My point is that nearly all of us “virtue signal” in one way or another, and that it’s often an asinine and boring criticism, because there’s nothing wrong with demonstrating your support for a cause or attempting to raise awareness of an issue.

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I think the question is if PL intends to continue the stance or whether they feel compelled to.

If PL is continuing the stance because they really want to use the platform to continuously keep the awareness, then good on them.

If PL is continuing the stance because they feel afraid of negative publicity, well then it is a virtue signalling out of fear.

Nevertheless, let the stance continue. The discussion remains alive. Players shouldn’t feel compelled though

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But they will be compelled. There will be a lot of peer pressure to keep doing it, even if a player thinks it’s pointless.

Yeah well, I don’t think there is an escape for that.
White players will have to do it unless backed by colleagues.

The things is when people go to/pay for/watch sports it’s a form of escapism not for another lecture. I will garante you not all those booing are racist but are just tired of this nonsense. If anyone needs other players to kneel to make them feel comfortable and welcomed on the pitch sounds they have failed to mature mentally. And the person who says that about they black peers need stop looking down at they black peers as they a infants or babies that need to be coddled and comforted all the time. The knee is doing nothing but turning people off watching as it did with the NBA numbers, NFL and all those other shows who lecture rather than just entertain they viewers like they are supposed to. If I was suffering I would not want to switch on any media because all it will be doing is telling me how horrible my life is. It’s like these fuckers forgot about the escapism and entertainment part if I did not pay for a lecture or activism don’t give it to me

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Tbh for impact if you wanna highlight it, you do it on the anthem.
The problem lies within your own game. Your representing England and the FA. If it matters it matters.

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I’d say walk off the pitch for the greatest impact.

England missed a trick not doing that against Bulgaria and Spain.

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Yeah Bulgaria was the chance.

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