Brexit

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I’m so glad I started paying attention to what goes on in the House of commons.

“My right honourable friend” is such a funny thing to end a sentence with :grin:

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I remember thinking this as a kid, thinking" you’re mugging him right off in front of all of his pals and then using such an overly respectful term."

I guess I’m now so used to it that I don’t even notice, but you’re right, it’s still pretty fucking funny :grin:

yeah that’s exactly how I hear it as a non-brit :grin:

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Because Cameron was confident we would vote to stay in.

I still think Cameron was wrong to step down. He had relationships in Europe and Westminster that May had to build from scratch as PM with the snipers always out there waiting for her.

They would have been waiting for Cameron too of course but it feels like he would have been better able to handle them and there is almost certainly no way that he would have fucked things so bad by calling an election right in the middle of the shit show.

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The snap election was the right idea but poorly executed by May .

No doubt in my mind Cameron would have secured a massive majority

What is funny about that sentence, is the word “honourable” being used to describe any politician.

just sounds passive aggressive especially if they have been arguing throughout then to be called ‘my right honourable friend’ might as well say ‘this cuntbag that is pissing me off’

Sounds like a club who are yet to make a major signing at the end of august :henry2:

I’m not going to pretend I have enough insight to disagree with you but from my outside perspective I got the impression there was a fair degree of protest vote both against Brexit and just the sheer opportunism of calling that vote in the first place given the much more important issues out there at the time. Add in the correction of some UKIP voters returning to one of the more traditional parties and no guarantee that would be to the Tories and there should have been enough data for them to realise it was a bad move.

I’m definitely saying some of that with hindsight but they hire enough of those clever fucks to figure this stuff out that they should have had it sussed.

This was the impression before the vote was called but the Tory polling didn’t start to decrease until the campaign started.

I think that election was lost on (in order)

  1. people actually seeing May’s personality while campaigning, and realising she wasn’t really someone you’d want to vote for

  2. her manifesto was completely uninspiring, especially against Corbyn’s socialist manifesto which people started to like once they realised it wasn’t just far left delusions

  3. rejection of the hard Brexit, no deal she’d been flirting with at the time but I think this ended up being secondary to everything else.

I too think Cameron would have kept a majority

No deal here we come!

What a clown

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Strange for someone like me who voted in the 70s to join the common market for economic reasons to then be made aware people want to come out for political reasons. Leavers talk about taking back control and seem to forget we have a veto on any decisions we don’t like and we don’t have to agree to implement them… strange

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The guy is one of the most incompetent fuckwits of all time. Everything that has happened today and its Corbyn number one trend right now. Bamboozles me how he has supporters.

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He literally is not a party leader. The Independence Group is not a political party.

Edit: that’s me commenting on the content of the tweet, not a response to your take on the reports.

So? Why should that matter to Corbyn in the context of Brexit?

Even then the Independent Group has 11 voting MPs. If Plaid Cymru, DUP and Green Party leadership can be represented why not the Independent Group too?

Walking out is petulant no matter which way you look at it

The Independent Group has 11 MPs who would probably not be MPs if they represented The Independent Group at the time of the general election.

Most people don’t vote for their MP they vote for the party.

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Had the vote been the other way would call for a second or done nothing?