Arsène Wenger

Fair point. :smile:

In life you never want to be the guy, after the guy. Wengers successor will have a difficult time. If anything the person to turn it around will be the manager once removed.

Gary Neville talking about us being ungrateful with how we treat Wenger. Should see how Leicester City’s fans are treating Ranieri.

What a U-turn over there.

Gary Neville has played in the last era of real football, I understand his point of view.

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To be honest, following SAF at United was an almost impossible job, as he left as a Legend on great terms with the club. With us it’ll be different I’d imagine seeing as many fans would welcome a new manager.

Also IMO Wenger isn’t a great man manager as it is so I wouldn’t be too concerned regarding that. Fragile mentality is our underlying weakness, I just hope our next manager can change that.

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Most difficult thing to understand is how easy the team collapses each year.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that the team can’t even be bothered to show some fight with the season on the line.

I’d like to see him take a record 7th FA cup at the end of the season and bow out. . He has my immense respect and admiration, but it’s abundantly clear that he’s done here.

“I rule nothing out because I want to work and I want to do well. I accept that it can finish tomorrow as well. It’s a love story and you always expect a love story to last forever, but it can always stop suddenly.”

  • That’s from one of his interviews around the time all the pieces were being done on his 20th anniversary.

Unfortunately you can’t always be the best judge of when its’ time to move on, and in life you don’t always get those neat endings. I’ll never be one to insult or abuse him, but I hope for his sake as much as all of ours’ that he can start to see that it’s over.

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If you are successful in a competitive industry as Wenger has been, there’s no way he’s going to lose a title race and not want to come back and take another shot, make things right. The issue is that the board seem to be clueless, or don’t give a fuck, or both.

The difrence is they are 1 point above the relegation zone, there is no comparison at all

I think thats the point.

This team , the squad and far more importantly Wenger have become stagnant.
Wenger is so predictable now ,
He should do the honourable thing and retire and let’s get this club firing again .
Chelsea don’t seem to have problems finding a manager , yes they’ve swapped and changed personnel at the helm but they keep on winning trophies.

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They’re talking about a manager who just won them the Premier League last season.

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If the foxes finish 17th this season I’d take their last 2 seasons over ours.

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Can you elaborate… I don’t really see the connection to the board.

I hate that dreaded line “be careful what you wish for”, this club badly needs a shake up from inside. It’s been stale for years and we don’t strike the fear into teams like we used too. Why are some of our fanbase so scared of change, Chelsea have shown that change ain’t a bad thing when it’s needed. We don’t owe Wenger anything, he’s got paid nicely for many years of failure.

Last year was Wenger’s last true chance of winning another PL trophy, all our rivals were on the skids and we had a great squad but he managed to screw it up. He should have stood down then, sure when he leaves many will forgive him but he’s left a bad taste with many Arsenal fans.

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Fergie successor had a difficult time because he wasn’t good enough and was succeeding probably the greatest manager of all time who’s consistent success over a 25 year period was unparalleled.

There are a host of better managers out there that can succeed Wenger and improve on our current results and team.

I’m not saying that you drew parallels between Fergie and Wenger, but I feel like your point was based upon the post Fergie struggles of United.

We are not a title winning side and haven’t been for 13 seasons. We’ve never won the Champions League. Our only trophies in the last 12 years would be 2 FA Cups.

Succeeding Wenger in 2007 would have been difficult for any manager in the world.

Succeeding him in 2017 is not.

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Any board of any industry would have sacked Wenger by now .
Imagine if The Arsenal were one of the 'high street ’ big retail shops finishing 4 and missing out on the top performing retail shops … Wenger would be a distant memory by now .

Exactly
They won the league 10 points ahead of us
10 fucking points and we done the double over them . FFS