Did our cup wins in 14, 15 and 17 help us build winners mentality for the bigger prizes ?
Liverpool’s 1st major trophy under Klopp was the 2019 CL followed by the 2020 PL.
Fair enough. Though I feel like the FA Cup wins in 14 and 15 did help partly cement our title charge in 15/16. It’s just a shame that we didn’t get over the line then, yet again.
I guess winning a smaller trophy can help with future success, but I think it can be very overstated. I’ve heard Chelsea players tlak about that league cup win being significant to their future success, but I just don’t really buy it fully.
Does anyone believe that Chelsea wouldn’t have won the league in 04/05 if they hadn’t won the league cup a few months before? I really don’t.
They’d have won the league anyway because they were clearly the best team, had a truly rodoculous defence and under Mourinho were very strong mentally. I think they’d have still won the league and still gone on to win all that shit they won in the following seasons.
If we’d won the league cup this season I don’t think I’d really feel more confident about us going on to win the league or CL, whether this season or in future ones.
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But it would help ease the fans, give them more patience with the board and Arteta.
Winning the league cup, something we haven’t done for 30+ years.. would at least bring some joy.
I think if Arteta comes away empty handed again next season, many fans will be asking for a change.
I can see the logic but by the same token a huge section of the fanbase were Arteta out within a season of the FA Cup win so I just don’t really buy into the idea that small cup wins do much to ease the fanbase tbh.
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Exactly, winning A cup for the sake of it will of course shut the “trophyless” criticism but the standards for this team are much higher that naturally the goal posts will shift on the lack of a PL/CL win.
For all the highs during Wenger’s prime days, the lack of European silverware in that time is still haunting.
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Especially not the league cup lol, at least bring the FA cup home.
But they’re just a nice to have and add to the trophy tally, great day out for the semi/final. The two that define players and a manager are the PL and CL quite simply.
Ten hag got two cups is he building a legacy?
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It was a pathetic attempt but at stages I believed we could win it lol
C’mon now, we should’ve won that league title.
We were 3rd until the last day of the season and finished 10 points behind.
Better output than we’re doing this season so far, where most folk had us as favourites to win the league, especially the more City fell off.
We’ve not had a “title charge” this season either…
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What do you think a title charge means @SuperArsenal1886 ?
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Hmm competing for the title with whoever’s ahead or slightly behind you, deep into the season. At least 30 games played. Both with plenty to play for. One where 1 or 2 slip ups could result in a new league leader.
Indeed.
Title charges? Might as well adopt West Ham’s bubbles at this point - “just like my dreams they fade and die”.
15/16 we were in with enough of a chance til we let Andy fucking Carroll rip us a new one about 4 games from the end.
Leicester were winning 1-0 every week at that point from what I remember, felt it wouldn’t have ever taken much for them to slip back to us.
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I think the win against Leicester brought us to within 4 of them. Two games later it was 10. That was maybe early March
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We were the only team to do the double on them as well that season, I remember welbeck scoring a last minute header from a corner against them