All I see in that clip is a guy in a regular jacket getting slapped. He was not even hitting back for punches to continue.
Spot on.
If they werenât banned then I see no issue with him being there. Arsenal had plenty of fans in the Porto home end, wearing shirts and chantingâŚdidnât hear of any fists being thrown.
Skirting a uefa ban and then mustâve done something to identify himself as a Bayern fan, just stupid really. No sympathy but also ridiculous reaction at the same time.
I would like anyone not finding the physical contact wrong to get punched themselves while outnumbered. Big boys. ![]()
Violence is wrong unless committed against someone who doesnât think violence is wrong. Ok.
I donât think anyone has said they think the violence was ok. But the Bayern fans donât deserve any sympathy.
What?
Will be pretty easy to identify and ban the gooners being violent.
Yes, youâre a bit of a fucking idiot if you infiltrate the home end as an away fan, and if I did that and then gave away my allegiances, I wouldnât be surprised if I received this sort of reaction, but that doesnât mean that itâs acceptable in any sense.
I canât imagine a world in which I discover an away fan sat near me and decide to get a few licks in. Itâs pathetic, cowardly behaviour.
What are you talking about?
It doesnât surprise me youâre too thick to understand what I said.
It is. But again, I havenât see anyone say itâs ok. @Calum said they âdeserved itâ which I donât agree with but isnât the same thing as endorsing them being punched to me. Iâve only seen it said that the Bayern fans donât deserve any sympathy there.
We all get that the Bayern fan shouldnât be there but that doesnât justify violent behaviour.
Shout at the fan, call him names, say his mumâs a whore or whatever but once you get into the realm of justifying physical violence over a guy that likes the wrong soccer team in the wrong place then itâs hard to soundly justify it.
I was a doorman for years while I was at uni and Iâve met a lot of people like the guy being violent and theyâre all big and tough until they have to be so against someone in a fair fight.
Wanna throw hands? Go down to a designated fighting gym and you can do it all you like (well, all you can since you might have to actually have a fair fight for once). Fuck out of here thinking smacking someone being escorted by a steward is somehow at al respectable or justifiable behaviour.
No, nor have I (though while weâre here, I do think saying it was âdeservedâ comes pretty fucking close to endorsing it). But I wasnât specifically replying to anyone here, just giving my general perspective on the incident ![]()
Scored 2 goals from an XG of 1.4.
White missed our only clear cut opportunity.
The Scottish love a scrap tbf what do you expect cal to say ![]()
The biggest issue I saw for us was actually further down the pitch. Bayern did a good job of preventing us creating a glut of chances. Our CBs were constantly slinging the ball sideways because we couldnât penetrate the midfield.
As @Aussiegooner said, the only real clear-cut chance we missed was the one White hit straight at Neuer, which wasnât really a simple finish anyway.
For someone claiming to ignore my posts you surely like to respond to them ![]()
For someone who isnât an Arsenal fan you sure like to hang around Arsenal message boards.
My issue with the violence is weâve seen/heard shit spiral out of control and itâs best not to cross a threshold in which could make problemsâŚwell much worse.
And youâre the judge on who is and who isnât an Arsenal fan? ![]()
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Look another post of mine you ignored. Thatâs how much itâs worth anything you claim on here ![]()
If I go into a stadium that has away fans banned and someone brings out a flag for the away team I wouldnât personally go for them as I wouldnât care tbh but you have to think in a stadium of 60k somebody might. Thats why I said it was deserved as not everyone will just ignore them.
What about if the fan gets hit in the back of the head and dies from it?
A lot of people donât realise the danger of fighting in the streets/in non-designated places. One of my mates had a similar thing happen and had a brain hemorrhage and almost died.
Yeah, in the situation you describe, violence likely ensues but itâs certainly not justified.