Wojciech Szczesny


#341

Just saw that he started for Juve in the league today with Buffon on the bench. Seems he is going to be more than a backup. Or is Buffon fucked or something?


#342

NO WE’RE BLOODY NOT ALL HAPPY!


#343

Saw this earlier today with the same sentiment you express. This Szczesny ‘adoration’ gets a bit out of hand imo. He is a good, solid goalkeeper, but not the second coming of Lev Yashin. If Arsenal do their homework we should easily find a keeper of his quality and thus aim higher.


#344

Lol Sneezy wasn’t that goos for us Cech has been miles better. And to echo the sentiments of SDgooner when Cech is done it will be easy to find a keeper if Szcezcny’s level, probably a lot better too.


#345

Cech was done 2 years ago. Should have been replaced with Woj, who had improved in all areas as a GK, last summer if Wenger had any sense.


#346

If Wenger had any sense he bought a good, younger goalkeeper in stead of 33-year old Cech when he finally axed Szczesny and this discussion would have never taken place in the first place.


#347

The logic with signing Cech and having Woj go out on loan was completely reasonable. Last summer was the point where it was meant to pay off with Woj entering his best years now having matured and improved

I get there’s a urge to fill the team with young talent but GK is not a place where I want that unless it’s clearly world class. Of which there’s been no stand out GKs since Woj left on loan


#348

Sending Szczesny on loan was more a consequence of not being able to sell him. Like we haven’t been able to do with a lot of players.

After 150 games in the first team you don’t really send a player out of loan to test him and let him gain experience I would think…

Pretty much every club of similar or bigger stature has found a very good to great under-24 goalkeepers, but now the market is dry? They should be able to find someone.


#349

No it was not. It was an attempt to force him to mature and improve his focus. Him being sent to Italy seemed deliberate rather than us offloading him to whoever asked first, Woj acknowledged this in an interview too.

In Woj case the loan made plenty of sense - IIRC his ability as a GK was never in doubt aside from a few senseless moments. Wasn’t it the smoking incident that triggered Wenger’s desire to loan him out and improve maturity?

Name names…Very few actual GK talents out there that were acquirable by Arsenal and better than Woj in the last 3 years


#350

In the eight games he has played since Buffon got injured, he has conceded just one goal. One!!! I’m never going to be over this guy!


#351

He’d be exposed by our defence too


#352

He won Golden Gloves here too…


#353

He’s also the last Arsenal goalkeeper to save a penalty for us – back in 2013. Nearly 5 bloody years ago


#354

:joy:


#355

Goalkeepers concede less when working with tactically sound managers and good, well-organized defensive units?


#356

Sure, but he is still making some decent saves, whereas we’re pretty generous with what we let into the back of the net.


#357

Wenger can’t tell his pecker from his a-hole.

For me there must have been a personal bust between the two. The demotion of Szczezza doesn’t make any other sense to me, especially since Wozza is one of the best keepers you can wish for and that’s now confirmed.


#358

The group influences the individual. When others around you perform well, you tend to do so too (that’s unless you are shit).

Wojciech was never the problem within the Arsenal squad, unlike for example Almunia who for a long time was the weakest link.


#359

I’m not so sure that is my recollection - I would agree with the spirit of the point, but Woj was prone to some pretty bone-headed plays and pen concessions, etc. - he was very young and had promise, but I don’t think there were too many tears shed when we he finally left - there was always the risk at his age that he would still come good if he got his head straight (and yes, having proper management/coaching helps there massively).


#360

He made mistakes but he was a keeper with a lot of ability, hence the comparison with Almunia who was not only error-prone but also simply a terrible keeper who godknows how (#thankswenger) ended up in the same team with the likes of Henry, Pires, Fabregas, Van Persie etc.