U.S. Politics

Agreed, Wasn’t taking a shot!

Should have used different term.

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Oh I didn’t think you were mate, all good, I wasn’t either :+1:

You often hear of “bureaucratic inefficiency” but I’ve never seen any data to back it up. Not saying it’s true or not, but it seems like something that is taken for granted and therefore not really explored.

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I think a bit of bureaucratic inefficiency with nationalised utilities like gas, electric, railways, water, post, etc, far outweighs the greed and obsession with profit that private companies have.

Nationalised companies reinvest profits back into making a better service and keep the cost down.
Privatised companies charge more and make massive profit which go to share holders, often from foreign countries, into the pockets of already wealthy investors.

It doesn’t. The product churned out of bureaucracy is far far inferior than what is provided by private companies.

We wouldn’t have 5G right now if telecom was in hands of government.

Edit - My bad should have read properly. Yeah electricity, gas, water should be under government.

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Why do you hate capitalism?

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Gotta agree with @BizzySignal here. Capitalism worked fine until the greed sets in and then of course politicians getting in on the scheme and allowing the greed. The United States built itself into a world powerhouse from the 1940s until the 1980s and then it started going to shit. CEO compensation has gone up almost 1,000% since 1978 (worker compensation has only gone up 12% lelel wut??) and the gap grew from a basic employee making about 20 times less than the CEO of a company to making 300 times less, actually insane just how corrupt it’s become. There’s plenty of money to go around we don’t need like 20 doods in the world controlling all the wealth it’s ridiculous. You’ll get the same shit with socialism too btw, 6 of one half dozen of the other.

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True as of the last 20 years. I’m simplifying my argument somewhat, but you get the idea. When socialism (combined with cherry picked pieces of capitalism) was the road for the Scandinavian countries, we really prospered. Globalisation and influences of major corporations have then altered the good balance between the two ideologies we once had. Neither capitalism and socialism alone works. One has to be the more dominant, but with clear influences from the other. This middle ground just creates the shit show we are seeing right now.

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This is the point. Socialism and Capitalism aren’t incompatible. Most industrial nations have already adopted both. The debate we have is what ratio we want.

The majority don’t want either a pure capitalistic or socialistic country, because both would be nightmares in their own right. But this is the argument that is constantly used, that it is either one or the other, which is a shit and intellectually dishonest argument.

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That lasted for about 2 seconds you should her reply to him :grimacing:

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LOL

Is that real?

Lol.

I’m glad that these grifters are now getting what they deserved but they should never have had any power or exposure.

Scumbags are still scumbags even if they also don’t like trump.

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Lincoln Project are the same bunch of asshole lobbyists that helped set the groundwork up for the Iraq War.

Knowing how morally vacuous and cynical they are I wouldn’t be surprised that one or all of their members set this sexual harassment suit up in order to dissolve LP so they could get back to their normal lobbyist scumbaggery.

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What’s happening in Texas loooool.

There’s your climate change, you wooden houses clowns.

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They managed to turn this against climate change as well.
Texas runs of wind based energy for some parts and are fucked because of weather.
“Thereby renewable energy sucks.”

I admire Republicans and their creativity

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That’s a hilarious argument given Texas’ monopolized energy grid relies on around 66% natural gas and coal–which froze over causing the rolling blackouts across much of the state.

Guess the free market didn’t see this coming.

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Wow …

Linda Fontaine “[excerpt] Only that’s not the problem. As Ars Technica pointed out on Monday, wind power in Texas is currently working at over 100% of its projected capacity. The real problem is that the Texas electrical grid is working exactly as designed, by people who created a system where the occasional failure is a virtue. Because the profits are better that way.”

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