Yeah agreed basically.
It has to not have clowns to be credible. She is a clown, despite me agreeing with many of her stances.
They need to win the northern working class towns that will go reform next election and went Boris in 2019.
More like Sultana I worry will not do that. Let’s get some serious people like Burnham for example please.
What’s this about?
sorry, was referring to her resigning from Labour but not from Parliament in order to start a new party
Tbf to her, she was suspended from the Labour party. So they dumped her - she’d been an independent since they did. She was still a member of the party though, which she just quit.
That would make great line up. for Big Brother. 
I’ve waited a year for Pie to tear into Labour like he did the Tories and he didn’t disappoint.
Agree with everything except the credit given to Labour back benchers.
Corbyn has pretty much confirmed this new party is happening.
I have my doubts, but those who are aligned, good that it looks like they’ll be able to vote for a party that represents them.
Aren’t you worried this increases the chances of Farage being PM or Reform Ltd being the largest party in parliament at the next election?
Honestly, I think that’s coming our way regardless after the performance of this Labour government.
I think the Labour majority is gone no doubt but there’s a chance for Labour to remain biggest party in parliament with a different leader if there is no Tory-Reform electoral pact ahead of the next GE.
There’s a high probability whoever is the biggest party at the next election won’t get a majority. A leftwing coalition could be possible if a vote on PR is put on the table
I’d put a lot of money on it. Have never thought Reform could get a majority in 2029, and after a year in office I really don’t think Labour can either now.
It absolutely increases their chances. Spot on there.
I don’t particulary care it does, I don’t believe in tactical voting. Anyone still says ‘vote to get the Tories’ out based on what we’ve seen respectfully, can shove it completely. Voting needs to be for authentic reasons or you get what we see with the current government who got rewarded for promising nothing. If a Reform government is the decision of the public, then that is the decision as much as I don’t like it.
Besides, the current Labour government that we supposedly needed is doing a great job of making Prime Minister Farage very possible. So great job there. ‘adults back in the room’ I think they were saying?
Oh the “the alternative is the Tories” argument is dead forever.
Because
a) Labour are Tories
b) They’ve given conclusive proof that they can’t do any better
As it stands, I think the people it would hurt the most would possibly be The Greens rather than Labour, and if I’m right on that, I’m not sure it would help Reform as much as people might initally be suggesting.
I think much of the Green surge at the last election came from people who were previously supporting Labour, liked Corbyn and his types, and couldn’t stand Starmer (hello, it me). I think those types will happily leave for a “proper left wing” socialist party pretty quickly. A lot of those people semi-reluctantly voted Green, and don’t feel like it’s a natural home, not being entirely comfortable in a party that often is seen as being a bit of a single issue party, that single issue being the environment.
As much as Corbyn and Sultana will be a pull factor for those people, I think they’ll be a push factor for a loft of soft left/liberal types who voted Labour at the last election, who did so as much as anything because they wanted to avoid another Tory government. A lot of those people will be put off by divisive figures like Sultana and Corbyn who are perceived as being very radically left wing. I think lots of those people won’t be attracted to a harder left party, and they’ll likely feel just as strongly about wanting to stop Reform from forming a government in 2029 as they did the Tories in 2025, meaning they’ll be reluctant to vote for anyone other than Labour, least of all a brand new party that won’t win many, if any, seats.
But this is early days, the party literally doesn’t even exist yet lol, so at this point its really just idle, highly speculative chit chat from me.
https://x.com/ramzannumbertwo/status/1940917020364796332?s=46
They way these people sold their morals for chump change shows how small time and pathetic these wimps are.
Also shit as people and incompetent as people.
A lot of these types never had morals, they’re true believers in the cause, so it’s not really even selling out to Israel for a lot of them.
Pretty clear what they were expecting from Rayner re Birmingham bins strike but they didn’t get it. The suspension boosts Rayner credentials and standing in any event, she clearly doesn’t need their money.
Another chapter in the fading irreverence of Unite who have been going down hill since Mccluskey left.
Streeting pulling no punches against the BMA either. I wonder how long Labour can hold, clearly the pay raises they did initial carry little sway. Lets see if the teachers give Phillipson a headache.
Fingers crossed the BMA can add him to the list of scalped health secretaries after those Tory ones.
