The Labour Party

I suppose I just question the logic of someone who literally months ago was out campaigning to become a Labour MP, pushing the merits of the Labour manifesto and then deciding after a very short time as a Labour MP that she wants to resign.

It is the same outcome. I suppose I still think it would be fair for the electorate to have the final say on whether they want an Independent MP or not.

What have they changed course on?

What Starmer got elected on as Labour Party Leader is very different to the Starmer now.

Again, if this doesnā€™t persuade you. Thatā€™s okay. What if you were a Tory MP elected in 2019? Did you sign up for Liz Trussā€™s batshit fantasy?

By the way, I do agree with you and think there should be a by-election or something. Not for any of these reasons, I think constituents should consent to their MP essentially going maverick.

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I think recalls are possible in certain circumstances (not this) which i think is a good mechanism.

Defection or leaving a party probably happens more here than the UK but weā€™ve also always had a tradition of electing independents anyway so perhaps its just a case of more exposure to it makes me more comfortable with it.

But ultimately, i just donā€™t see it as a big deal and certainly not something that should trigger an election.

I agree with you here, but the MP is not resigning because of she doesnā€™t like the way Starmer has changed the party. Starmer set out his parties manifesto and she signed up to it.

I agree with you here, and this would be justified, but again, Starmer hasnā€™t changed course.

:+1: Is this the first thing you have agreed with me on? :grin:

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If there were a by election in Canterbury I would be interested to see the results.

Could be the first Tory regain from Labour. Labour arenā€™t that popular in this part of the world, the winter fuel thing went down like a lead balloon and thereā€™s a big student vote that arenā€™t likely to be passionately supporting Starmerā€™s brand of bland Tory-lite.

Duffield could win if she was inclined to run, or the Tories could easily get it back if she and Labour split the vote. It was a cast iron Tory seat before she won.

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Thereā€™s been some demographic change (Not sure about Canterbury, quite an expensive place) but when I vote itā€™s usually see the same type of people. Pensioners, Middle aged folk who would show up if it was pissing down with rain. Iā€™m sure much of Kent is the same.

Rosie Duffield got 10k less votes in 2024 than in 2019, was assisted by a massive Tory collapse and Reform UK vote split following the trend for Labour in the GE. 2019 and 2017 was razor thin in terms of margins.

Mustā€¦resistā€¦forcedā€¦votingā€¦joke

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So at the end of the day your mission is to find someone to agree with you to make you happy, very impressive that :wink:

https://x.com/ian_fraser/status/1840300234083057810?s=46

Voting reform!

Only just caught Starmerā€™s Sky interview with Beth Rigby about the gratuities heā€™s accepted.

Hilarious seeing him try to turn the tables by talking about how Sky invite politicians to lavish events only for her to reply that those are work events, and to ask him if a Taylor Swift concert is a work event, only for him to weakly respond that thatā€™s a call for individual MPs to make.

This guy is such a shit political operator :joy:

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https://x.com/skynews/status/1841203225371787580?s=46

You can really tell why they worked so hard to kill Corbyn.

1 term shit PM.and his own fault. Fuck off and die ā€˜Labourā€™

https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1841180383343493600?s=46

Austerity 2.0 from Bowl C***

it worked so well last time!

Get these neoliberals out man

Makes my fucking blood boil at the massively obvious double standard here.

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ā€œIsrael has the right to self defenceā€ is such a redundant statement at this point.

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why does the UK and US need to make statements about whatā€™s going on in the middle-east?

Because theyā€™re allied to one of the principal belligerents?

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One quick question, has anyone ever noticed him refer to any other country as ā€œherā€, or is it just Israel he feels the need to gender?!

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I did think that was very unusual.

In mainland Europe we gender our countries a lot - but never really heard a UK PM or senior minister do it before, did sound odd in my ears.

This is by far his worst lie yet. Itā€™s absolutely disgraceful to lie and say Iran aimed 200 missiles at civilian targets with absolutely no foundation. This is contradicted by what fucking Israel have said themselves!

This guy just keeps on exceeding my expectations for how much of a cunt he is, itā€™s almost impressive.

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https://x.com/richardjmurphy/status/1842124164112449614?s=46

These lot really have been a whole load of shite after 1 decent week.

https://x.com/adrian_hilton/status/1842291639563571214?s=46

Wish our political class would euthanise themselves first.

Oakshott first

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