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TLDR version of pizzagate please.

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Tldr of pizzagate is that Beyoncé was wrong. Girls don’t run the world, paedophiles do.

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wtf is pizza gate?

Hillary Clinton was running a paedophile ring out a pizza restaurant - at least my understanding.

ffs autocorrect

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So its nothing to do with Fabregas hitting Ferguson on the head with pizza?

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This was the sequal I guess.

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Migrant throws scalding hot pizza at innocent elderly Brit. What a scandal.

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I’m happy to carry on here and so sorry for delay as been working last three days @Dr_Strangepass . Thanks for the PM and sorry for delay.

I’ll await your post and make sure I absorb and reply when im by PC…

I preferred it when he was a dog nonce

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@JakeyBoy @jonboylondon - I’ll probably just carry on debating here if there’s interest for it. I’ll provide links to the stuff where appropriate and describe and analyse the photos in words only. If anyone wants to verify the accuracy of my words it will be an easy Google search to view the photos.

@Electrifying - though the theory began with a focus on Hilary Clinton’s charity, and though many of the conspiracy theorists clearly, and fanatically suppose her guilt, there’s nothing at all to tie her in directly. I’ve not read any synthesis of the claims that literally think there is a ring running out of a Pizza parlour. The theory is actually incredibly non specific, it posits a culture of wrongdoing around Comet Pizza, and establishes links between the owner, other potential wrongdoers, and John Podesta, who in turn is held to question for his links to potential wrongdoers and pertaining to a couple of odd emails. They then flesh it out by positing that John Podesta and some of his friends display a keen interest in the occult. They then tie in some stuff pertaining to Hilary Clintons charity by establishing links between this and pre-mentioned individuals. They also claim that Podesta is talking in his emails in code, though I personally see no obvious sign of that. If Comet and one or two items linked to certain individuals can be debunked the whole thing immediately falls as a bag of shit. My point is not that I believe the theory, but rather that the things needing debunking have yet to have been done. That’s it in a nutshell.

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“In light of the ‘Baby Trump’ balloon being allowed to fly over London during his visit to the UK, let’s get a ‘Baby Khan’ one and see if free speech applies to all and whether or not Mr Khan and the London assembly will also approve this.”

Didn’t quite go as you hoped eh cunt? haha

Sixty grand for a balloon? #ripoffbritain

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@jonboylondon so here is my reply to you.

Sorry again I am not posting the actual photos. If anyone wants to see them to cross check just type Alefantis Instagram into Google, then click images, all I mention are within the first 40 or so.

Photo 1: the most famous one, where a girl’s hands are taped to a table top in a kind of BDSM fashion. She is smiling, seems happy enough.

Photo 2: Close up of the same girls face as a baby. To me this is clearly a sexualised image. In my whole life, knowing many parents, don’t recall a single photo where the camera has zoomed in on the eyes, open mouth and tongue of a child. The colouring of the photo is also bizarre. An unknown man writes ‘I want one.’ Another hashtags #musthave, then two hastags #Hotard.

Photo 3 & 4: Firstly the same girl standing in a shopping basket. Next one still in basket, an orange held at groin height, girl leaning forward with tongue out. To me it looks like she’s been asked to put her tongue out. Children pretending to eat oranges know how to eat an orange.

Photo 5: close up of JA with unidentified toddler. Nothing wrong with the picture but friend says ‘cuteness is very serious business. seriously.’ It’s a play on words from the previous comments but sounds so weird in connection to a child.

Photo 6: photo of unidentified man holding unidentified child. A yellow necklace wrapped around them both. The only comment reads, hashtag #chickenlover. Even with a chicken related context, which this picture does not have, I consider that a fairly obvious sexual comment.

Photo 7 & 8: A photo of unidentified baby in a netting at the park, some kind of climbing frame thing. Comment reads only: ‘why does daddy like butt?’ Another photo establishes potentially the father and mother. Mother points to fathers t-shirt which has butt written on it. comment - ‘buttbuttwhatinthebutt.’ previous comment, again - ‘why does daddy like butt.’ Very weird talk in connection to photos of children.

Photo 9: Girl, probably called Mae according to hashtag runs on grass in yellow dress, camera views her from behind. Hashtag #ilovechocolatecake. With no cake context, and pertaining to James Alefantis as he is the I, not the girl, I consider that a clear sexual remark.

Actually for the owner of Comet I think that is already enough to establish a pattern, but there are many more, including some of the more infamous ones.

Photo 10: A photo uploaded to Instagram by a regular commenter and liker on James Alefantis’s stuff shows a child sized coffin, which appears to be a homemade coffee table. His handle is workingonmynightcheese, if you want to check. He has a few child coffin posts.

Photo 11: Another regular fan of Alefantis’s posts, called pizzafuckingparty, I believed established as a worker at Comet, but certainly evidenced as a regular poster on his Instagram, shows children on their hands and knees picking up gold wrapped condoms and miniature bottles of alcohol.

Photo 12: Another regular liker of JA’s stuff has the handle Jblairsmith, and he states about a photo of 2 men - ‘my favourite pedo.’

I said earlier about some of the musical acts at Comet too. I referenced the band Heavy Breathing who regularly play at Comet. A video where the lead singer chats to his agent in Comet is available on a link to Voat later, but I’ll submit this one where singer references paedophile. Start from 1.22. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlhBn_zSIro -

I’ve already submitted photo of the mural.

I stated previously that Alefantis’ wife had defended a convicted sex offender. Actually I made an error, it was his sister, but I’m still trying to find verifiable evidence for that.

Links between Alefantis and Podesta brothers: http://archive.is/FvXp0; http://archive.is/QOZgU; https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/37543 ; https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/48531; https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/58301 ; there’s a lot more than this too.

Link between Podesta’s and convincted sex abuser: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hastert#Child_sexual_abuse_and_hush-money_scheme
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/48488

This is quite an in depth collection of evidence linking Alefantis principally to a lady called Izette Folger and her family to Lisa Sisby who I mentioned before re kidnapping - http://tgasc.com/2017/01/chapter_two/ + a Steemit thread detailing similar links: https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@heroic15397/alefantis-friends-of-the-orphans-and-the-maccoby-family http://archive.is/AHDzm Another article on the fake sex trafficker lawyer: https://archive.is/FQSGK

Here’s that bizarre email again from Tamara Lazzatto: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736 Reminder who she is: https://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/23/style/weddings-tamera-luzzatto-david-leiter.html
The weird as fuck webpage of hers that needs to be debunked / proved fake: http://archive.is/JGhR6

The Voat community putting their claims together into a systematic fashion and debating near the bottom what should or should not be considered evidence: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611 - this link will also have links within it for pretty much most aspects of the theory.

Articles on Podesta’s and their art, plus the Spirit cooking:
Shit sight but thorough enough article: https://www.sott.net/article/334002-Progressive-liberal-values-Tony-Podestas-creepy-taste-in-art-the-creepy-people-he-hangs-out-with-and-Pizzagate
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/nov/04/marina-abramovic-podesta-clinton-emails-satanism-accusations

Example of poor debunking by New York Times and a very selective choice of what to debunk:

Basically I feel if the photos and the Tamara Luzzatto stuff is adequately debunked the rest falls.

Edit: I’d also like to add these two excellent overviews which take include a great deal more than I can in a limited post: https://aceloewgold.com/2016/11/20/pizzagate-clinton-podesta-what-is-it-and-is-it-credible/
https://aceloewgold.com/2017/02/12/despite-fake-news-ridicule-pizzagate-advances-far-beyond-logos-strange-artwork/

Thanks Dr i shall take a look when i have five…:slightly_smiling_face:

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Do you know what? We should make, like, a NATIONAL gofundme page that everyone can donate to so that people can afford healthcare.

That’d be neat!

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That’s a great idea.

Maybe we could find a way so that people could just donate straight from their wages and avoid having to log on and donating all the time - less hassle!

Then we could think of a name for this national health service. Something short and simple so everyone could remember…

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Sorry mate, someone brought that in 70 years ago.

Fucking commies. :bellerin: