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I think it’s plain as day the difference in the way the media report atrocities committed by ethnic people and those committed by white people.

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This prick is being forensically examined as how he radicalised. Really, he is. So many articles in Dutch and International media describing how he got to become a extreme right wing nationalist, how alt-right news indoctrinated him etc.

I see no difference in how the media treat Islamic extremism and white nationalist racial extremism. They are both called out as terrorists and they are both being examined as what drove them to such deeds.

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Perhaps it would help to be clear some of us here are referring to UK Media in regards to double standards. These guys have no problem throwing punches when convenient.

Fair enough - I can’t comment on UK media. But in The Netherlands the white boy is described as a terrorist and how he became radicalised by alt-right ethno-religious hatred etc.

Just to be clear any person who goes on a killing spree murdering innocent people for whatever his/her reasons are; irrespective of skin colour, religion or any other held beliefs is a monumental cunt and terrorist in my book.

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Erdogan already incited violence amongst his Turkish subjects who live in Europe and the recent terrorist attack in Utrecht could very well be an outcome of that.

And now this:

Can I just say that Erdogan is a murderous facist? Inciting violence again.

He basically makes veiled threats to Australians visiting Turkey, re: how in the past Australians alongside the British and New Zealanders were sent back in coffins.

Erdogan, while campaigning for local elections, presented the attack as part of an assault on Turkey and Islam and warned anti-Muslim Australians would be “sent back in coffins” like their grandfathers at Gallipoli - a blood-drenched WWI battle.

This is your Turkish’s friends hero @mhappy and this is why I have a massive problem with Ozil inviting this cunt to his wedding. I can’t support Ozil, sorry.

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In Holland and New Zealand, maybe.

First off please show me the evidence of him inciting violence; no matter where I look I can’t find it.

Secondly he is using the massacre for political gain; tell me one politician that has done that?
BTW in the article it doesn’t mention threats towards nationals, in fact he brought up historical events, which is based on facts but maybe a little embellished.

Look I know you don’t like the guy and that’s fine, but you are really over reaching at this point.

What’s there to like? :stuck_out_tongue:

Did you read the quoted part? Sending anti Muslims back to Australia in coffins. That is inciting violence. - It’s from Al Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/australian-pm-denounces-erdogan-reckless-nz-attack-comments-190320021305914.html

He did it before and a Russian diplomat got shot by an Erdogan adept.

He notoriously incites violence against anyone who is not pro-Erdogan. He calls Western governments, he did call the Dutch one, Nazis. Tells Turkish people not to integrate.

Erdogan is a violent thug. Not to mention his nepotism as well, where his (extended) family gets lucrative positions and there have been links established between relatives of his and ISIS dealing in oil sales. Now unless you like ISIS, that is pretty evil.

Yep.

If people can’t see the justification, humanisation and individualisation of white terrorists and murderers compared to the dehumanisation and blanket-blaming terms when it’s a minority then I dunno what to tell you.

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Literally the same “angelic schoolboy” term - For Jihadi John!

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Please for the love of god Turks, vote him out.

He’s been a good leader for them but it is time for him to step aside.

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What drives the media is the human interest garnered from crafted narratives.

It’s up to everybody to demand better standards in their print media

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You mean if an anti Muslim person comes to a Muslim country in reference the Australian who shot the people in the mosque.

Clearly that’s a strong narrative and not exactly inciting violence, but something from a protectionist perspective; however I can see why you’d see it in a very different manner, you don’t like him, you think he is evil so doesn’t what is said or how it or context.

I take it you think Erdogan is not evil? Alright then.

I do care what he is to be frank. Whether or not he is evil nothing I can do about it.
I am not Turkish so I can’t vote so :man_shrugging:t5:; not going to be outraged about another country’s president, if that’s the case I would never be relaxed, to many shitty leaders in the world.

Take care of own then worry about others.

Interesting take. So I suppose you would not be outraged about Hitler and Stalin and their terrorism? Because, what can you do about it?

Erdogan is a tyrant responsible for the suffering of millions of Turkish people and minorities inside of Turkey. And when he incites violence outside of Turkey, like he does in Europe, then that does affect me and I can do something about it by educating and informing people about the cunt Erdogan is.

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I can get the dislike of Erdogan but I think you’re reaching with a lot of what you’re saying to be honest with you. It’s almost like you legitimately believe that Erdogan’s evil is on parity with Hitler and Stalin.

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Why do people go as far as hitler and Stalin, which btw Erdogan has done nothing like those guys.

Turkey has an election coming up so that’s their chance to get rid, he is rating low in the polls and trying everything to get backing.

While we on the subject since hitler, Mia, pol pot and Stalin were both socialist and communist and killed a lot of people, I can technically anyone that thinks along those lines wants to be them.

Anyone believe in Marxist ideology is evil and wants to be a tyrant, because it gave us hitler, Stalin and Mao.

Edit: oh yeah Marxist ideology gave us Mussolini. So fascism, national socialism (nazi), and communism.

You don’t like the guy for personal reasons more than anything else.