Pep Guardiola

Fair enough sham you have came with receipts :joy:

How did that get past the quality control

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Not quite, but four goals is indeed the the most he has lost by in his career.

And two of those happened this season :slight_smile:

Spurs literally beat them 4-0 a few months ago. Which shows you how irrelevant Spurs are, that even their best win of the season has already been forgotten :slight_smile:

Areta :handshake: Pep

Hating the domestic cup balls

Updated :white:

Getting beaten by Barcelona, Bayern Munich or Real Madrid is ok but getting thrashed at home by relegation fodder like spurs is just embarrassing. :grinning:

Has Arteta suffered a battering yet in his career so far? I guess the Man City 4-1 from a few seasons ago is the only one that comes to mind.

2021/22 we had a 5-0 and 4-0 loss to City and Liverpool.

He’s given us a lot of memes over the years but this might be the greatest one for me.
https://x.com/primevideosport/status/1861433119037165961

I can’t get over the fact that it looks like he’s tied up on that chair.

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:arteta:

Yeah, this looks brilliant. Destined to fail most likely

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It will be interesting to see how he innovates next season. Our own gaffer has much the same task ahead of him.

such a shame that our decline had to happen at the same time as this guys…

I can’t see a world where they don’t challenge till the final day again unless their sanctions come to pass.

This should be us

So… PSG

Edit - okay, so wingers are midfielders now. Like when Wenger played Ramsey on wings…Cool..revolutionary

Why are they acting like this is some absolutely groundbreaking new tactical approach? Using your full backs in a traditional way and loading central areas is a tactic as old as time.

I love Pep and think he’s undoubtedly the standout coach of his generation but sometimes he gets credited for things he wasn’t even responsible for. And then people go crazy about what a genius he is and how he’s inventing new tactics for everyone else to use.

I remember when everyone was fawning over his usage of the false 9 like Spalletti wasn’t doing it at Roma before Guardiola was even a coach.

The vast majority of what Pep has done is literally just the idea of another coach that he’s found a way to incorporate.

Sweeper keepers, inverted full backs, positional rotation, false 9… you name it and it’s been done before.

Pep inspired a generation of coaches but it’s no different to how Sacchi and Cruyff did the same thing in the 90s.

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I see you never heard of a guy called Robert Pires…

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Or Rosicky tbf; many neutral fans hold it against Wenger to this day, how he played Rosicky, as one of the most telented 10s in the world in his time, out wide.
I had nothing against it, Rosicky was fine there, it’s just the injuries. A marvelous talent back in the day.

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The response by JJ Bull

  1. Correct: doing this with your full-backs is not new. Yes I have seen Liverpool do it before. No, Guardiola did not invent it. Also, Gary Neville and Dennis Irwin were doing this in the 90s. Also, Brazil were doing this in the 70s. etc


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  1. In Guardiola’s first City team he brought in attacking full-backs so he could do something this at times. And again, I am aware it’s not new 😂


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  1. This genuinely is something a little different from City, which they started doing last season, O’Reilly holding width (or underlapping) and Marmoush as a winger but also a central forward and attacking midfielder. But Alvarez did something similar before that too


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  1. Just because they’ve done it once doesn’t mean that is suddenly the only thing they’re going to do. Sometimes the LB will go inside and attack like a forward - Gvardiol did it last season. Cucurella does it lots for Chelsea. Dani Alves did it at Barcelona.


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  1. You can’t really drag and drop the same tactics into each game. You can have principles that are the same, but every game is different. And every manager has their own ideas how to combat the opposition tactics, so things evolve pre/mid/post game to deal with that

  2. Guardiola is the most influential manager in world football, to the extent that he has changed how football coaches at kids level run fun sessions, or how amateur 11aside or 5aside teams play. I’ve seen it happen in England and Scotland, it’s a good thing

  3. Therefore, when he starts doing something different to what he’s usually done, and looks to be adding a new way of playing to his deck, it’s worth looking at and talking about.

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Even the tactic of using four centre backs, and no full backs. I would hear people fawning over this genius Pep strategy, when Italy were doing this back in the 1940’s under Giuseppe Viani.

Pep is clearly a genius, at least in my eyes, when it comes to coaching a team. But he’s not this football savant that invents new tactics like he’s always portrayed to be.

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What was criminal was having Arshavin and Podolski wasted on the wings.

It’s less that he invents new tactics but more so that he’s at the forefront of new trends in football. A trendsetter if you like

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Arteta has been doing some of these things as well with changing full back roles in the attack and I think we’ll see more of it this year.

Injury has really hurt our ability to use the fullbacks more creatively the last couple years. You need players with the quality and burst to hurt defenses as that sixth attacker but also enough depth to rotate because it’s such a demanding role. Hopefully with Timber/White/Miles/Cala we now have four guys who with those attributes and they stay relatively healthy.