I mean yeh you’re right they’ve always been fast and loose with their money but I just feel like they’ve been able to keep reforming and rebuilding their squads because of some seriously good investments like Suarez and Coutinho who kept them within the parameters of FFP.
Whereas in contrast we keep our shit players way too long, never sell anyone for decent mark up and have to loan players like poverty bitches because we have too much going out for wages and literally nothing to show from player sales.
The best bit of business they did was getting Suarez’s agent to agree to that fake release clause.
That would have taken 35m off their profits and given us the best player in the league and probably got us at least one title. Then people would be praising us for spending 40m on a 100m player.
Could have been a huge turning point in the two clubs futures like you say. Unfortunately we had a drunk child heading up negotiations, Liverpool are where they are and we are where we are.
RvP in 2011/12 and Alexis in 16/17 how can you disagree, ffs RvP dragged us to the CL single handedly that season. We finished 3rd!! Can you imagine if we had a decent team that year we might have won the league!!!
RVP I’ll give you, although that’s 7 seasons ago now. Alexis, I’m not sure he was better than Klaim or KDB that season. And Barce obviously rated Coutinho better at that time.
Yea he scored and assisted plenty but he constantly broke down our play at the same time as Wenger let him do what the hell ever he felt like doing that season to get the best out of the petulant little tosser.
I agree.
He has the sort of personality that is dynamic and is probably the best at buying and selling players.
Compare that to Wenger and our board who lose very good players for nothing, who pay world class wages to inadequate players and continually make excuses about why couldn’t buy players.
The line that Wenger used after every transfer window about “players meeting his valuation,” or “not being afraid to spend big,” cost him his job.
Wenger never bought the best players available when we needed positions filled.
They were always bare minimum players, or players with potential or, in a lot of situations, no one at all.
Compare that to Klopp, who is the opposite.
He was criticised by a lot of people for spending nearly all the money he got from the sale of Courtinho on Allison and VVD, but they are sitting on top of the PL and we look nearer mid table than title contenders.
As a club we talk and act like we’re Harrods but really we’re more like Primark.
So if he wins the PL does this position change and you’ll then consider him world class?
As it is the current title challenge and getting to a CL final and out tacting Guardiola, who supposedly is world class, is some achievement. A final he only lost due to goalkeeping errors and a judo attack on his best player
Also I’m not sure any manager gets more out of average players or improves players as much as Klopp. Also note that when players who’d played really well under Klopp like Kagawa, Gotze and Sahin left to other top clubs they flopped under other managers. Klopp definitely got more out of Gotze than Pep.
At your deathbed you look back on your life and you realise you spent a good chunk of it on trying to convince people of your opinion and visa versa and all it achieved is endless back and forth tugging about semantics, small sample sized statistics and opinion on what constitutes success or a wc manager. No one changes anyone’s mind on here about one’s taken stance and as such it’s an utter waste of precious time we have got on this planet.
Alas, welcome to the internet. OA’s microcosm as the hypothesis for life.
I don’t know his level of input but I know he isn’t in charge of setting budgets and if he was here we’d never have got those players. Which makes the part of your post about him choosing the level of ambition, somewhat redundant