Labour and Your Party

I think it’s all about the tuition fees actually. I don’t even think it was minor. I was just too young to vote in 2010 but that was my generation first experience at politics and they were deceived.

Now I jogged my memory. Schemes like EMA ending under the coalition did hurt too.

That shit can and did scar young minds for life. They grew up with those scars.

What’s always mad about topic (probably not much anymore) is they also were criticised for abandoning the Lib Dems. They will always have my respect for that. This whole thing with politicians letting you down and you vote them again is weird as fuck.

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Maybe a welfare u-turn if we get reform polling higher.

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Means testing WFA isn’t even a bad policy, it was just rolled out in the most pathetic and intentionally deceptive way.

Another win for the boomers I guess

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Only because people have forgotten how hateful they are.

When they remember the Lib Dems are NIMBY Liberals, the reform voting electorate will show everyone what they think of that.

I know you added context but their implementation is why I don’t like it.

The view and perspective of politicians in general, those in these institutions of who is ‘poor’ and ‘well off’ is vastly different to the citizens.

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In no way do I mean to disparage you here Calum, but generally, The Sun’s TikTok feed has got to be the absolute sewer of the internet.

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Its more about the sky news error giving her a squeaky voice tbf

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No I got that, it was just when I saw what the source was, I had never really considered that the Sun would have a TikTok feed before, and then I realised what that must look like.

It literally isn’t a U-turn, fuck are the BBC on about?

The payments were universal, the Labour policy was to make it means tested. A u-turn would be for them to change their mind and no longer make it means tested. What they have indicated is that they will tinker with the thresholds. So it will still be means tested. It’s the same policy, but modified.

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I think in the end it will prove to be a U-Turn in that it will be nominally means tested but almost everyone will qualify.

Which will be too little, too late and everyone they’ve pissed off will still be pissed off even if the damage is undone.

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And even better news, that will cost shitloads in admin for no fucking reason.

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Brings me on to what I was just about to add, they havent actually announced what changes will be made, they’ve announced an intention to “look at it”.

As it stands, the BBC saying " But make no mistake, this is a U-turn.", is hyperbolic, premature and inaccurate.

We’re not getting details til Autumn lol

Yeah that’s fair. It’s another confirmation that binning BBC News in favour of a nice faceless News corporation controlled by Murdoch was no loss.

We can declare it a U-Turn, BBC News can’t. Or shouldn’t.

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Made me think of you @sevchenko :wink:

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This chagos Island deal sounds fucking terrible

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Having a BBC board populated by Tory backers means they won’t call out Tories if they U-turn, but they’ll drag any other party through the mud. Why they keep chumming up to Farage though, that’s a bit baffling.

Angela Rayner seems like a moron.

Every time there’s some story about her I remember that time she just pilfered a special whiskey starmer had been given as a gift without asking.

These politicians are all shit and Reform will have such an easy time beating them.

https://x.com/shadowofezra/status/1927452212348788944?s=46&fbclid=IwY2xjawKjoUJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHrA1VoegTn4R0Z2E2BNPaA0W_sRVciy7K5fx8JEFb7RAoFpmXiPFK80KRreQ_aem_Ws-J3e5etnq_Vkd686bEYA

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British establishment: ‘WE HATE YOUNG PEOPLE’

Just over and over again.

All to sustain the broken unproductive yellow teethed elite