Granit Xhaka (34)


#2472

We win games despite him not because of him


#2473

Well, he did.


#2474

He can pass when under no pressure which teams often don’t allow, gives away the ball in sloppy fashion on a consistent basis.

He is so easily pressed it’s not even funny and doesn’t have the speed of thought of a top player to compensate for his complete lack of athleticism.

In short he’s an accident waiting to happen in almost every game.


#2475

Yes. This was something I pointed out since his second game with us.
Every pass is hit with same power.
fabregas used to weigh his pass perfectly so as to make sure the recipient doesn’t have trouble controlling the ball.


#2476

Time to sell him in january before it’s too late, as no one is gonna get him in the summer if he kept playing in this way.


#2477

I saw him late in the game try to put ‘some’ power behind his pass so that Laca can flick it and the moron went in with full power instead.
Look at Lucas, how he brushes the ball and weights it so nicely. As someone said, night and day.


#2478

#2479

Easy to see Lucas must start.


#2480

That’s a bit misleading.


#2481

He’s our only forward passing midfielder and can affect transitions. Up until we find a midfielder like Santi, who can carry the ball from defence to the attaching third or someone who can pass from defence to the attacking midfielders without being a complete looney, Xhaka will stay in the first team.
Torreira and Guendouzi pivot won’t work cause neither of them currently have the ability to pass forwards. While Torreira offers more industry, Guendouzi is more mobile and can hold the ball better hence he’s been in the starting line up more often.
I wonder why we didn’t gamble and kept Santi on the books for one more season or didn’t sign someone similar. We could have done with players like Seri, Jorginhio who were available.

We need a Cesc and either one of Guen or Torreira could play the Flamini role easily. I’d be surprised if we don’t make a move for a passing/ dribbling midfielder in Jan, until then Xhaka is here to stay.


#2482

Guendouzi is pretty decent at forward passing…


#2483

The odd pass yes, but he hasn’t show that he can pass inbetween the lines or aid transitions from defence to attack. Him alone isn’t enough and we’d lose control of the midfield, like what happened in the Chelsea game once we took Xhaka off.


#2484

Torreira and Guendouzi are actually more direct than Xhaka, so i do not think this is a reason for him to have a guaranteed first team place.

Most of his passes are sidways and like we saw on sunday, he tends to pass it from one side to another and risk a counter attack.


#2485

It’s clear as day anyway that Lucas and Xhaka should be our starting midfield pairing at this stage.


#2486

It sounds Emery considers Xhaka our first choice in the middle. No chance to see him dropped.


#2487

Anyone notice him doing a Harlem Globetrotter move near our box? :mustafi:


#2488

I think the partnership in midfield I’d like to see is Xhaka + Torreira. Xhaka seems to be the only one (barring Torreira weirdly enough who seems to be the most competent forward passer we have) who tries to pass through the lines.

In the spells where we have played well this season, Xhaka has been at the heart of starting moves with positive forward passes. It’s just that he also is the central cause of our lack of control / aimlessness in midfield. His good spells are vastly outweighed by the fact that he’s such a massive fucking liability.

I never feel comfortable with Xhaka in our midfield. So susceptible to being pressed / dispossessed. Needs Torreira shielding / mopping up around him to give our possession machine some balance and control.

I hope there will be some ruthlessness in our squad building under Emery. If Xhaka doesn’t improve this season, it should be his last at the club and my realistic hope is that he gets marginalised over time.


#2489

Odd to hear some wanting Torriera and Xhaka as a pivot, as good as Torreira is he won’t be able to cover Xhaka’s clumsiness and ineptitude.

Would much rather see Xhaka drop to the bench altogether pending unlikely improvement and blood Guendouzi even more, the way I’m seeing Xhaka is he barely has a future here particularly as a starter. Why continue to persist with mediocrity?

I’d like to see a three in midfield with Torriera at the base with perhaps Guendouzi and Ramsey as a paring. Or even put Mhki in there.


#2490

Yep.


#2491

As well intentioned as this is we’re asking a hell of a lot from Bellerin and Monreal in how they support our attacks and have to factor in all the defensive considerations for them on a tactical level.

With a 4-3-1-2 we’re also asking our central mids and strikers to branch out wide a hell of a lot. Less concerning with our strikers but is it manageable with our midfielders? They might be capable of covering the spaces and protecting the full backs, but in the same vein it could turn out to be a mess.

We could still get a balance between what you’re suggesting but a broader shape by sticking with a 4-2-3-1, just with some personnel changes. Or we can go even closer to what you’re saying, with an England-esque 5-2-1-2/5-3-2.