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Beaten in the Chicago riots on the weekend. No one has mentioned the the teen riots in Chicago and LA, looting and burning is just the norm now.

We were waiting for you to complain no one had mentioned them.

I am not complaining, just radio silence on bigger topics or maybe people just want to ignore it because it’s not convenient

Or maybe we haven’t heard about it.

I hadn’t heard about it. But then I don’t read the Express, who seem to be the only ones who covered it.

All aboard the bumhappy derailment express.

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There was also the white woman I think in New York that drove into the wrong drive way and got shot and killed the other day. But I guess because she was white it didn’t really make news :hugs:

It did make the news and was headline news on many websites

What are you talking about? It made all the news sites and the shooter was arrested immediately.

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Sounds like the guy was itching for any chance he could get to shoot someone. And there are countless others in the US with the same obsession and aggressive mindset of taking life so long as they can conjure up any possible justification in their head to do so. Scary situation.

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Weird that is your take after looting, 2 shootings, several robberies and several injuries.

Either you endorse it or ignoring it because the looters and riots are mainly black teenagers in Chicago, and Latino is L.A. Don’t forget mainly white teenagers in Portland also; it’s almost as if not arresting people and letting them riot breeds more of it.

Btw it was reported by abc news.

That is just dumb, at least the 84yr old genuinely had a reason to be scared.

lmao as if he couldn’t have just spoken through the door and asked what this skinny little 16 year old boy wanted?

Someone knocking on your door is not a justifiable reason to shoot through your door :joy::joy::joy:

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Are you talking about the Ralph Yarl case? As far as we know the kid was shot through the door. And then allegedly shot again when laying on the ground. Why would the shooter have been scared?

That’s one of the narratives; the other is the boy rang the doorbell and proceeded to open the outside door, from the man’s account he panicked as he lives alone and 84 had noway physically able to defend himself from burglary, thus shot twice through the glass door hitting the boy in the shoulder and the left side of his forehead.

Again that’s the narrative that’s been put out there, however is true or is it white man villain black kid victim

Except the door between him and the kid! Opening a storm door or screen door is just not the same as trying to open the door to get into a home. I’ve prosecuted and lost that case multiple times in front of a jury.

Firstly it’s at night, you aren’t expecting anyone, some is trying to enter your home; age profile of the gentleman and the fact that castle doctrine would see him cleared on self defence.

From your stand point what should he do? Wait for an unknown person to enter his house and hope that person isn’t there rob him or worse.

The whole thing is a massive accident and an unfortunate one for both people involved

I’m not aware of the portion of law that takes the age of the shooter into account. Do you have a citation for that?

And since you’re apparently a legal scholar this morning let’s look at some statutes together, no?

^This is the link to the Missouri “stand your ground law”.

563.031 permits the use of physical force against another person “to the extent he or she reasonably believes such force to be necessary to defend himself or herself or a third person from what he or she believes to be the use or imminent use of unlawful force by such other person”

Under 563.013.2 a person is allowed to use force against a person who “unlawfully enters…or attempts to unlawfully enter a dwelling…” but the facts are in dispute about whether he attempted to enter the house.

But 653.012.1 requires that person to reasonably believe that “such deadly force is necessary to protect himself”. At what point is it reasonable to fire a gun through a door? The door is there to protect you. You don’t have a duty to retreat under this statute but you have to act reasonable. You can’t just start blasting.

More importantly, it’s an affirmative defense. Under 563.013.5 the defendant has to assert that their use of force was contemplated under 563.013.2. The State then has the burden of proof to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that defendant did not reasonably believe the use of that force was necessary to defend against what he or she reasonably believed was the use or imminent use of unlawful force.

Not shoot through a fucking door! It’s not hard. I’ve managed to go thirty plus years of my life without shooting a child through my front door.

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It’s not about the interpretation of the law on age profile, as his defence you’d make sure the jurors are aware that 84yr old man in his home at night with an unknown person trying to enter his home, while playing on the fact of how unfortunate the incident is that the boy got hurt.
Or you could be like the prosecutor who wants attempted murder charges or something like that.

And I will ask again what should he have done in that circumstance?