FFS mustafi (Fuck out)

#1523

Where did that shit back on top thing come from we’ve literally been shit since he signed for us. What have we been top of exactly or is his idea of being back on top just winning a match after we lose / draw ?

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#1524

Clearly remember people on here being excited when he was named at Anfield this season.:joy::joy::joy:

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#1525

Its his more shit version of ya gunners ya basically hah

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#1526

Its his mediateam doing all this shite. He can barely speak english let alone write back on top in decent english.

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#1527

At the end of the day every single centre back we had except for Koscielny since 2010 has been bad for Arsenal. Always felt like Gabriel had the natural ability to be a solid defender, but the high line/one-v-one stuff he suffered from.

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#1528

Mertesacker was a good signing

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#1529

Gonna celebrate like a win against Tottenham when we sell him.

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#1530

Vermaelen wasn’t half bad in his initial few seasons till he got crocked. I think Holding can be a great defender if coached properly, the ingredients are all there.

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#1531

My official guess then is that nobody will want him and he’ll run his contract down with us and leave on a free.

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#1532

We need to wake up to the fact he is not the only reason we are bad at the back though. Any way you look at it we field the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
We simply as a team cant absorb pressure most weeks.

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#1533

Not sure what SD’s opinion on him would be (I agree with what you’ve said!), but as he was signed in 2009 perhaps he’s not a factor in his post that covers 2010 onwards.

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#1534

I remember thinking the likes of Vermaelen and Mertesacker were often not good enough.

I’d love to have them now :joy:

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#1535

I think Mertesacker was always criminally underrated by Arsenal fans and the media who never appreciated what a calming influence he was on Koscielny.

I think if we didn’t have Wenger as our manager with his insistence on a high line and not protecting his defence - that partnership would have gotten a lot more plaudits than it did.

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#1536

Even under Wenger, we had spells where we’d conceded the least goals in the league over prolonged periods and Mertesacker was usually the constant in that. If Mertesacker was playing under Mourinho I think he’d have been regarded very very highly across the board.

But he was slow, so he was always going to be exposed under Wenger occasionally and then get called out for it. But even then, the amount of goals conceded purely down to his lack of speed were very few. Maybe Wenger deserves some credit for that, or it was just his own intelligence to stop him getting caught so much.

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#1537

I think Mustafi has started more games than any other defender so this might indicate that Emery still thinks he could be good enough and will keep him.

No other club is going to pay his 100k a week wages so unless we give him away, which isn’t going to happen, then we are stuck with him.

We have plenty of CB options but none of them are top four quality, so it might be better to sell a couple of them, and use the money to get a top quality defender, to either partner Holding or Mustafi.

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#1538

It’s really got everything to do with the fact that Holding is out for the season, Sokratis has picked up a few injuries and Koscielny missed the first few months of the season.

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#1539

The problem is that Kos can’t really be relied on because of his fitness and age, although he is arguably our best CB, and Emery seemed to prefer Mustafi to Sokratis.
Also I’m not sure if Holding is up to being a starter for us just yet.

Mustafi clearly isn’t good enough but there are a lot of other positions that need strengthening as well, and I think he could still be here next season, even if it isn’t as a first team regular.

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#1540

Our best bet is Holding and Papa with Koss rotating in liberally depending on fitness - but after this year, you feel he is done… we need another top CB to push Holding and/or Papa and replace Papa as he wanes - he isn’t a spring chicken either. If Holding doesn’t work out, we are proper f*cked again and back to the drawing board - another hole to fill unless Mavro is the answer.

Hopefully Medley develops into something useful - basically we are banking on at least 1 (preferably 2) of Holding, Mavro, Medley (still 1-2 years away) developing plus at least one top signing.

Really next year have to write off Koss, Moose, Chambers for CB for me. Can use Monreal as back-up left back and emergency CB.

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#1541

Why do you think this?

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#1542

Because Mustafi has started more games this season than any other defender.
I know there have been injuries but Emery was starting Mustafi even when we didn’t have as many.

Edit: Sorry, I have just checked and Mustafi and Sokratis have started around the same.
But I still think Emery will keep Mustafi next season regardless.

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