If the window ends, he stays and doesn’t play very much, what kind of money will we get for him in January or next summer? Presumably less.
@Leper My criticism about selling is based as much on how much we get back as the players we’re trying to move. Is it the club having unrealistic valuations on players? Is it the type of player we’re trying to move? It’s hardly Edu’s fault that seven years ago someone like Rob Holding could have gone to a mid to bottom tier club but now people want ball-playing centerbacks. Could say the same for someone like Tierney who is a very orthodox leftback.
My feeling is that the club is currently struggling to find a forward out there that’s available that they really want to invest in.
I think this has led to their strict stance with Eddie and Nelson.
Same applies with Ramsdale.
If you want to take them from us then you have to pay up(like Fulham did with Emile) because if they go we have to replace them to make up the numbers.
TBF how many bids have we accepted before last summer. It’s been quite a lot of contract terminations.
I think Edu has done a great job this summer so far. But I’ll die on the hill that the Eddie and Reiss contracts were bad contracts and are potentially coming back to bite us in the ass. I hope we can get both of them out of the club. It’s nothing personal, they just have no future here and the longer they stay the less leverage the club has.
Lots of free transfers as you say, but it’s not an inconsequential number of players sold and many of those fees should have been better. There’s just no room for complaint that the club is moving to address that.
If any profit is made on those Nketiah and Nelson contracts, they are good contracts. That you don’t like the players doesn’t change that.
put it this way… if Kai/Jesus is out for long term.
Is Joao Pedro sufficient to cover?
IMO if we get a striker (not starting over Kai/Jesus), he must be better than Eddie.
No point to get a player that Arteta doesn’t trust or not using.
Getting a starting striker is another topic.
I am just talking about Eddie here.
Who says we don’t need him? If the club didn’t need him they would be getting rid of him as soon as they could just like they did with others early in the window.
He played 1400 minutes last season. Obviously not a key player but he played quite a bit and that’s also with us going out in the cups early.
We’ve got 24 senior players currently.
Every club in the PL has more players bar West Ham and they’re set to sign Guido and Fullkrug which will put them at 26.
Sure but it’s an opportunity cost. Could the club have used the money they paid to both players over the last two years to get a player who fit our system better.
Obviously if we book pure profit from selling two academy kids it’s good and there’s no way to definitively prove that we could have or would have spent the money we used to keep them on a better player. But I’m always going to wonder about it.
Well, that’s purely your opinion though and it is clearly not something the club with agrees with else he wouldn’t have played as much as he did last season, nor would they set their demands as high as they have this summer.
So both players are reported to be on about 100,000 per week. Eddie’s been on it for 2 years and Reiss for one. So that outlay is about 15 -16 million.
Who would we have been getting for that money - inclusive of wages - that would have been better than having both players in the squad last season?
Who told you this?
Being open to sell for the right price isn’t trying to get rid of him.
If they were trying to get rid of him they would have gotten rid of him as soon as they could just like they did with Tavares and Lokonga.
Well if they weren’t trying to get rid of him, the message out the club would be “this player is not for sale” as soon as interest was bubbling up and an offer was due to be tabled.
I think as soon as a fee gets agreed for him (maybe even before), we’ll go all in for Gyokeres to complete the window.
Not really. Majority of our players have a valuation. Gabriel was a key member of the team for many years and the club braced themselves for a silly bid from Saudi.
There’s probably only a handful of players in the team that the club would not be selling under any circumstance.
In this situation with Eddie, club is open to sell him for the right price but they’re not actively trying to get rid of him.
In the end, Arteta used the same core players match after match, 90 minutes after 90 minutes spoke all about the rest.
Eddie was not injured like ESR or Vieira.
He did not have fitness issue.
You don’t like the word “get rid of”.
Okay, how about phasing him out?
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